dande Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Hi I have modelled a building in AutoCAD Architecture (See image ACA.jpg). If I file link the model or import it into MAX my railings and window frames don't import correctly. See the attached Max.jpg I've never had this problem before and I have no idea what's causing it. Does anybody have any idea. If I export from ACA to AutoCAD and then do an import or File Link the model comes in fine. But that causes other problems Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAllusionisst Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Haven't used ADT or AA as it is called now since 3.3, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Have you set up your assemblies so that they are by layer per element and not a block? Where you in a 3d view when you exploded architectural elements and blocks and then exported or saved out? If the building is big did you try saving out multiple files with different items like interior walls and doors, etc. in one and exterior for another or maybe even seperating the shell into walls, roof, windows and doors for example? Last but not least take a look at DXF and 3DS if necessary. 3DS has poly count limits so if you have a lot of say windows and mullions you may run into problems. Of course the newer versions may have taken care of it all in an automated process, but in the old days there were some tricks to getting out a decent 3D Model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks for you feedback. That helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlAhearne Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Dande, Are the elements modelled as 'windows', 'doors' etc, or are they mass elements/3D solids/3D faces? Have you checked that the units in ACA are the same as the ones in the file link manager? I do a lot of importing from ACA, and I've never seen that, so let us know if you find the cause of the problems. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Carl The windows and doors are modelled as door, windows and DWA's. The rilings are modelled as railings. I import ACA alot as well and I have never seen this. My only thought is that the building is a big ARC. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil poppleton Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Have you looked at the curves steps and surface deviation settings in the basic tab of the file link settings dialogue box ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes I have and they had no effect and I've played with the facet diviation settings in ACA with no luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamf Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Is the drawing miles away from the origin in AutoCad? This can cause a lot of problems when importing into Max. Move the model to 0,0,0 in AutoCad and then import it see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks for your feedback. Moving the model to the origin (0,0) did'nt have any effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytohaveher Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 1. Run a full PURGE (3 times) of the Autocad file. 2. RECOVER the file in autocad. Relink the file. If that works great. If not: 1. Perform a WBLOCK of only the geometry around the problem. 2. Link/Import it into a NEW 3DSMAX file. See if that works. If it does, great! If not, I don't know. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Thank you for all your feedback. I moved the drawing to 0,0 then wblocked the objects in the file out to a new file. I then linked it to 3DS and all looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philg Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I know this does not help much due to the cost of upgrades but I had exactly the same problem and it varies depending on the CAD file size and level of detail. We have recently upgraded to 3dsmax v9 and the problem has completely gone. I have not found any articles anywhere about this fix, nevertheless it is fixed. The imports are now so clean and stable you can stay in AutoCAD much longer to get that extra detail done quickly and to scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Thanks for your feedback I'm using MAX 2009 and ACA 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benitoben Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i first create a spline in max ,import the one i need from autocad attach it to it and delete the first one, and it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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