Devin Johnston Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Anyone using this yet? http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/review-intels-new-nehalem-cpu-1022236.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Didn't they only become available to the public yesterday? From everything published on it, it looks fast. I think you should get one, do some testing and let us know if that's true. Or if you want to save yourself some work, you could just send me one, and a motherboard for it, and I'd be happy to do the testing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Ha, I'll send you my old dual processor AMD Opteron I heard there was an 8 core version available but I'm unsure if it's just a 4 core with hyperthreading or an actual 8 core chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) nice try Andy.. btw, here's a Cinebench v10: Edited November 17, 2008 by F J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 ...Or if you want to save yourself some work, you could just send me one, and a motherboard for it, and I'd be happy to do the testing for you. don't forget the RAM.... a comment in the article makes it sound like it needs a new style RAM.... but it didn't say anything more about it. Must have something to do with the memory controller being moved to the CPU. the one line that really caught my attention though was that Intel is bringing back hyperthreading. Will be interesting to see some benchmarks with that enabled and disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 It's supposed to use DDR3 ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 There's no 8-core yet, but there are 6 and 8 cores in the pipeline. BTW, compare those Cinebench scores to: Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.7GHz XP64: 11088 Core Duo (Macbook Pro) 2.16GHz OSX32: 3720 The i7 920 has a slightly lower clock speed than my Q6600 but is a fair bit faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The i7 920 has a slightly lower clock speed than my Q6600 but is a fair bit faster. yea, but dont forget the i7 is more 'stretchable' due to being 45nm.. all the nerds r already clocking it up to 4GHz n beyond (clicky!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Is there a dual CPU version? Quad? I'm getting an upgrade, I want a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) also, the price point that the i7 920 is hitting the market way below the current core2extreme qx9770 which it owned in almost all the tests. I'm with Steve though, I'd love to see an i7 version of the core2quad skulltrail:D edit~ rumored: Q1 2009 Edited November 18, 2008 by tecton3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yea, a quad-quad set-up with these would be pushing 55-60000 CB. Flipping sweet! If anyone is going to sell something like that it will be Boxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 It's funny you said that, I just talked to a guy from Boxx yesterday and he said they would be offering systems with the i7 processors early next month. You can bet that they aren't going to be cheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horhe Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) Guess its time to start saving up for a new workstation, huh. Edited November 18, 2008 by Horhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I still fail to see the point of Skulltrail. Dual CPUs! We already had that technology. Runs on Core2 instead of Xeon! Yeah, but it's a special extra expensive Core2 with the same pinout as a Xeon. It's for gamers, not workstations! You say tomato... Also don't get too excited about the Hyperthreading. Remember that in Netburst chips it only gave something like 10% improvement, and even that only worked because it didn't already have an assload of cores, and because Netburst was the most inefficient microarchitecture ever conceived. It had a 34 step pipeline. HT wasn't a feature so much as a bug fix. Put it in a CPU with 4 cores that get utilized well and have something like an 11 step pipeline and it's not nearly as exciting as it used to be (which is to say, about 10% as exciting as a Barry Manilow concert). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 AJ, you're not a Fanilow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Considering that a $320 i7 outperforms a $1500 QX9770... I can build a whole system for $1500 based on the i7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 um the i7-965 is over 1000$ http://www.buyxg.com/store/item.asp?key=CU-197-203 unless you know of somewhere cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The i7 920 2.66 ghz is going for about $320 at newegg and it outperformed the Qx9770. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 AJ, you're not a Fanilow? I didn't say that, I said Manilow is 10x as exciting as hyperthreading! (BTW, Fran, that's correct - they just bumped everything up enough that the new low end is better than the old high end.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 and the 540 is 578$ I have done this too much started with the low end with the intention of upgrading it later from 1 233pii on a dual board to eventually 2 333's and now I am on a 6600 quad core with the ability to upgrade to.. and if i was to enter i7 the same way, i just don't want to again go this route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesht Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 so the i7 is still a Core, but i'll wait for the Xeon "Nahalem" as i've asked one of my local Dell guys and he told me the i7 will never outperfrom the Xeon haha, is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 so the i7 is still a Core, but i'll wait for the Xeon "Nahalem" as i've asked one of my local Dell guys and he told me the i7 will never outperfrom the Xeon haha, is it true? Depends what you want to do. A dual-quad xeon would be more cores but each core is slower than an i7's core. So for things that multithread very well the xeons would probably be faster but if you're not using all the cores at once the i7 is faster. The dual-quad will probably run renders faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 and the 540 is 578$ I have done this too much started with the low end with the intention of upgrading it later from 1 233pii on a dual board to eventually 2 333's and now I am on a 6600 quad core with the ability to upgrade to.. and if i was to enter i7 the same way, i just don't want to again go this route Judging from the benchmarks, the i7 920 outperforms the most powerful of the previous desktop processors, and at an excellent price point. If I were in the market for a new desktop, it's what I'd choose without even considering upgrade paths. Things in CPU Land change too fast nowadays. I build something that I plan to be happy with for a year or two and figure I got my money's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfienoakes Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Things in CPU Land change too fast nowadays. I build something that I plan to be happy with for a year or two and figure I got my money's worth. Very true... If its a lot faster than what I currently use, and not a bad price, its gonna be a benefit and increase productivity.. Well.. allow me to make my scenes even more complex..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 yea, i dont get whats with the dual-CPU systems neither.. i mean, havent these ppl heard of Render Farms? (kinda reminds me of all those kids buying Quad-Cores for gaming:rolleyes:) think about it: sure the i7 920 outperforms the QX9770, but this is only true for multi-threaded environments.. which means the i7 920 will NOT outperform the QX9770 up until u press the Render button.. looking at this example u can easily see what a waste a dual-CPU system would be during all the work u do that precedes the Rendering stage.. by this measure it is more productive to have a top-of-the-line C2D as a WorkStation.. n having "the-best-bang-for-the-buck" in mind, a dual-CPU system will never outperform a bunch of networked Q6600's.. my 2 cents.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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