Michael J. Brown Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'd make this post in the Fry Render thread, except that I seriously doubt anyone other than the 1 or 2 Fry Render devotes 'viewing' at any given time would even see it. I'm just discovering Fry Render and was wondering if anyone here had tried the demo - or even better yet, has worked extensively with it. I can see from product samples shown on their website that the end results (supossedly achievable) are no less stunning than those produced in Mental Ray or V-Ray. And they boast the ability to be viewable in real-time (via another of their software add-ons). What are the biggest pros and cons you encounter with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i think there is a memeber here called Fran, try and search for her, she seems pretty good with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 more specifically, i believe she may be a product tester for fryrender, and she is also a moderator on here check this link, some nice work done by fran in fryrender http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/31435-blue-sectional.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedgrape Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I've only played a little with Fry Demo, it seems like a really cool render engine, but with physically based render engines you have to expect some serious render times! Im obviously no expert, and I'm sure you can achieve some amazing results, but i prefer V-ray personally, just because it has a great balance between quality and render time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Brown Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 ... i prefer V-ray personally, just because it has a great balance between quality and render time. Speaking of which - and I fully entend on possing this question in the V-Ray forum for more in-depth discussion - Do you find it a challenge to get per-frame render times to a reasonable value when doing animations with V-Ray? I've got a bit of a delema. I'm still pretty new to V-Ray and have been able to generate some fantastic results with it. I'd like to start doing all my animations at no less than 1080wide with it. However, I can't help but be discouraged by the markedly long render times i'm getting with V-Ray versus Mental Ray on many of my stills. I know there's got to be a perfect mix of variables such as using saved solutions and whatnot. But I'm just afraid I won't be able to skinny down 2.5hr render times to 15min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Brown Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 more specifically, i believe she may be a product tester for fryrender, and she is also a moderator on here check this link, some nice work done by fran in fryrender http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/31435-blue-sectional.html Thanks, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 If you are looking fro a render engine to do fast frames for animation and you already have a vray license..... Alternatively you could look at Mental Ray. However (depending on the firepower you have by means of a render farm) I dont think an unbiased solution is what I would recommend for animation work. In fact, Ive never seen an animation done in Fry or Maxwell (unbiased), certainly by a small shop. I may be wrong though, my experience is limited. MR and Vray are my weapons of choice. I do own a FryRender license, but Ive yet to really take it by the horns. If you turn up any fresh info on Fry for animation, please post it here. One thing is for sure, if youre using Fry you will need some power and DR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Speaking of which - and I fully entend on possing this question in the V-Ray forum for more in-depth discussion - Do you find it a challenge to get per-frame render times to a reasonable value when doing animations with V-Ray? I've got a bit of a delema. I'm still pretty new to V-Ray and have been able to generate some fantastic results with it. I'd like to start doing all my animations at no less than 1080wide with it. However, I can't help but be discouraged by the markedly long render times i'm getting with V-Ray versus Mental Ray on many of my stills. I know there's got to be a perfect mix of variables such as using saved solutions and whatnot. But I'm just afraid I won't be able to skinny down 2.5hr render times to 15min. If you’re going to do animations then Fry & Maxwell are out of the question, I used Maxwell to do several animations and the render times were outrageous. From what I've heard Fry is a little faster than Maxwell but it still can't compete with Vray or Mental Ray. When you move into the HD side of things then your render times are going to at least double if not quadruple and you can't afford to wait days for a frame to render. Vray and Mental Ray are very similar, each has it's strong points but if you're experiencing long render times in Vray it's because you haven't tweaked your settings appropriately and you should take another look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Brown Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 ...but if you're experiencing long render times in Vray it's because you haven't tweaked your settings appropriately and you should take another look at it. That's exactly what I figured. I've got my homework cut out for sure then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I've got a bit of a delema. I'm still pretty new to V-Ray and have been able to generate some fantastic results with it. I'd like to start doing all my animations at no less than 1080wide with it. However, I can't help but be discouraged by the markedly long render times i'm getting with V-Ray versus Mental Ray on many of my stills. I know there's got to be a perfect mix of variables such as using saved solutions and whatnot. But I'm just afraid I won't be able to skinny down 2.5hr render times to 15min. Honestly, it sounds like you need to slow yourself down a bit. Develop your skills with Vray before you dive into HD animations, they are not to be taken casually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Exactly what I thought. I think no-one should try doing even simple animations (commercially) until they have a totally solid knowledge of doing stills. A by-product of the learning curve is the 'under the hood' knowledge that is crucial in animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Brown Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah. I've got MANY more hours to put in for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 That's exactly what I figured. I've got my homework cut out for sure then. You should buy Christopher Nicholls Gnomon DVD and absorb all the info and tips it holds. Its a few years old now but still relevant and very brilliant. If you hurry, you still have time to let Santa know! JM http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/cni01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Brown Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thanks, I'll check into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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