karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 hey every1 just wandering if any1 had tested widows 7 beta yet? if so what was the impresion (i doubt it's so much different from vista) and howall the software acting with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Let's just say that Win7 is the next major release from the largest OS vendor on the planet whose last product was nothing short of a lemon riddled with bugs. Why then, is their major selling point an "all new taskbar" ??? Karolis, funnily enough, your signature probably describes the inner workings of all the Windows releases from the past 15 years quite well. http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/windows-7-beta.ars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Twyman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Haven't used it but I read somewhere (not microsofts own site ) that it was supposed to be very good and that it is already much more stable than vista even though it's still in beta. Supposed to have pretty quick performance too. Believe it when I see it though! I doubt this was testing it with any demanding applications either. I think it's due for release sometime around next christmas 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 im never changing from XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) im never changing from XP lol this is the funnyest thing ever imagine some1 working with cg visualizations saying now "im never changing from windows 98" you will! Cause it will eventualy be pushed out of the market with methods like new software won't be released on xp and new drivers etc.....in fact i think it's already in proces and microsoft will stop suporting it, starting somewhere in 2009... when xp came out everybody talked about what big peace of crap it is and that is takes way too much pc power....and now some1 is saying that he will never change from xp.....talking about irony Edited January 13, 2009 by karolisbilz@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 From XKCD http://www.xkcd.com/528/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 LOL SHANEIS i saw that one today somewhere browsing the net in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattclinch Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 hahahaha, superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 what?v ray? i think i lost you man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I installed Win7-32 beta on my MBP yesterday, I'm going to install some real software before deciding whether I like it. All the reports I've read are: 1. They are not working on a huge new bucket of features, but instead on making what they've already got work better and improving security. 2. They've succeeded so far. I think not going for a huge new feature set is the best idea they've taken from Apple since Aero. People who have been using it since the "unofficial" pre-release of the pre-release have been saying it runs faster than Vista and XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) 1. They are not working on a huge new bucket of features, but instead on making what they've already got work better and improving security. Which is something they should have done four years ago. 2. They've succeeded so far. ...and so they should, considering they've had over three years worth of bug reporting, patch testing, RnD done for them by the consumers. Look, AJLynn, I too hope that they've got themselves on-track this time. Hey, a huge percentage of the World relies on it. Finger crossed, huh? Not to mention the imminent Day Zero's and other holes the black/white hats find... Still leaves you wondering...why didn't MS go back to scratch and fix it. Truth be known, I wonder when the World will start saying to themselves, "Over a decade ago, you made a sieve to hold water, then made us pay for it, you've continually patched it with Band-Aid's, yet lined your pockets and have never looked back". I suppose that if enough of their market share "jumps ship", then maybe everyone (MS, Apple & the *NIX's/ BSD's) will move towards the tightest, most stable and secure coding they have ever produced... though right now, it seems like a "Watchtower" cover to me . /rant Disclaimer: Apologies to any Jehovah's Witnesses, I'm merely illustrating the hope for a technological Utopia and not looking toward any specific religious parallels, the Watchtower publication was the first that came to mind. S. Edited January 13, 2009 by shaneis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytohaveher Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 You know why the call it "Windows"? Because it is such a "Pane".... I saw a report the other day, I think on ZDNET. WINDOWS IS 25 YEARS OLD!!!! I really don't mean to be harsh, but you would think with all the people, all the time, and all those Billions and Billions of dollars -- they would have their act together. I realize that the modern computing environment is complicated and dependent on thousands of other developers of which they have little control; however, they should be able to get their stuff write! Right??!!?? I can't believe we are still working on a 2-D desktop model for UI interaction. That is so 1983. Aero is a mild step up, but let's face it. Without embedded voice control, gesture control, and a 3D Space within the monitor the whole thing is rather trite. I know, I know Pista has voice control, but I am talking real, ready, and ubiquitous implementations. Remeber, at one time MSoft was worth $500B. Not bad for a company that steals, copies, or only refines other people's ideas, sometimes paying them, most times not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 You're looking for, what, a jetpack? Of course the desktop is 2D. The monitor is 2D. BTW the Jehovah's Witness heaven doesn't look very entertaining. And what's Rick Eloy doing with those koalas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOXXLABS Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 3D GUIs, voice/gesture control, etc already exist and are being perfected by companies who have specific expertise in these fields of focus. But these technologies are nowhere near being useful or robust enough to be the basis or core functionality of any new computer operating system. If any company had it figured out - be it Apple, MS or whoever - they would have implemented it by now. Let's be fair here. The truth is that Windows works great for hundreds of millions of computer users. This includes hundreds of thousands of artists who use it every day to create amazing stuff. This includes users of Windows Vista. (gasp!!!) (oh the horror!!!) puuhlease. Sure, every version of Windows had had its shortcomings. And guess what? So has MAC OS, Linux and every other OS, application and technology ever developed. Any every version of every OS becomes more refined and more useable and more efficient as new versions are released. -same as any other product. I guess I just don't understand all this OS-bashing. Perhaps for some it's easy and safe to go as "David" against the big, bad, evil corporate "Goliath". But truth be known -the alternatives to Microsoft offer trite little difference in the way of usability, reliability, flexibility, functionality, corporate business motivations, or anything else. Apple is owned by the shareholders who want to see the value of their shares increased. Apple will use this as the overriding criteria by which business decisions are made. I guarantee you that Apple is more concerned with how they can sell more ipods and iphones than they are at delivering tools and computers for artists. And the same goes for Microsoft. The good news, though, is that we have choices as consumers and as artists. At the end of the day, IMHO, the best thing we can do it to pick the best tool (which may simply be the one that feels best to work with) and freaking use it to make things. rant off. **PS - I personally love MAC OS and think it's every bit as "good" as Windows for just about everything. ***these are my own opinions and not necessarily anybody else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffc Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Forgetting much of the the technical reasons behind these conclusions, from what I've heard from a few guests on This Week In Tech, is that Win 7 was torn down, refined, refined again, and rebuilt. It's supposed to be quite fast, lighterweight, and not plagued with the driver/platform issues that Vista had when first released. I've also heard (although never used it to this day) that the latest service pack of Vista is actually just fine. I'm really looking forward to Win7, since I absolutely hate the "more shiney features" method of software development, which normally translates into making my fast new hardware just as slow as my hardware 4 years prior. Devorak on TWIT said it well when he generalized that a huge problem with coders is that they get lazy due to all the processing/hardware power nowdays. Oh, one more funny point someone made, is that looking back on Windows releases, it's impossible to count to version 7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 It's V7 because they're still trying to forget everything that's not NT. NT went up to V4, then 2000 was V5, XP was also V5 (go figure) and Vista was V6. Okay, okay, that's not fair, XP was 5.1 and XP64 was 5.2. Windows 7 is actually Windows 6.1 - I'm assuming they'll bump the version to 7 when they go to RC. The fact that they've move the build number up to 7000 says they're pretty far along in development - they probably consider it feature-complete at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beestee Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Truth be known, I wonder when the World will start saying to themselves, "Over a decade ago, you made a sieve to hold water, then made us pay for it, you've continually patched it with Band-Aid's, yet lined your pockets and have never looked back". I suppose that if enough of their market share "jumps ship", then maybe everyone (MS, Apple & the *NIX's/ BSD's) will move towards the tightest, most stable and secure coding they have ever produced... though right now, it seems like a "Watchtower" cover to me . Disclaimer: Apologies to any Jehovah's Witnesses, I'm merely illustrating the hope for a technological Utopia and not looking toward any specific religious parallels, the Watchtower publication was the first that came to mind. S. I myself do not find that comment offensive, and the similarities are, in a way, pretty accurate. Actually, the fact that the Watchtower publication has stood out in your mind in that way is a complement to the work done by Jehovah's Witnesses. Much like the contrast between present world conditions to what is pictured on and within the Watchtower publications, what we are hearing of Windows 7 compared to what we know of the history of Windows makes it difficult to believe. ...of course, the similarities probably will end with Windows 7 not living up to the high hopes of the promised utopian OS Last time I checked, Microsoft causes to bluescreen, not to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 im never changing from XP I feel the same. XP64 works great, nice, lean, mean, apps work great, nice and stable. It has all of the qualities and attributes that Microsoft is trying to infuse into Vista / Windows 7. But never is a long time. I can say that for the life of this computer and I'm 99% sure for the next one, I'll keep using XP64. Eventually, motherboards will change enough so that I'll be almost forced to switch OSes. Like me trying to plug an iPod into a Windows 95 machine. (note: I don't own an iPod). But until then, it's XP64 all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I am on the same boat about sticking to XP as long as I can, but everything I have heard is that 7 actually works well, and is not the resource hog that Vista is. Does anyone remember when Windows released ME? Piece of crap. Then they fixed everything that was wrong with ME, when they did that, they called it XP. Hopefully this is the same case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ansol Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 cant wait that se7en ... i hope they will learn from last time they made. i dont know wht architectural at xbox 360 but its give realtime rendering with good result. i dont realy know how people made that console but i wish its gona be good when se7en have something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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