Sketchrender Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Good Day, raining in Dublin but still a good day. I have been asked to look at setting up a Seperate 3D Company from within the company I work with, a study so to speak. They obiously see a potental for profit. Any advise on how to write the report on this? I have written a business plan, and the current set up, but would appreciate advise from somebody who has been through this. Thank you. phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M. Gruhn Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hire all the handsome ex-Galwegians you can find. I've nothing against Warrenmount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchrender Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Handsome people in Galway, you must be mistaken. All us Handsome men are in Dublin. I have heard there are a lot of handsome looking women over there though, if you know what I mean. I think the company wants to save money not spend it anyway. Cheers ps whats the connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What specifically did you want to know? If you've written a business plan before, would that format not also apply? Are you just servicing internal clients or external clients as well? If it's a study then it will be a cost/revenue center no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieLeon Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I think the company wants to save money not spend it anyway. Creating a 3d department to save money is a bit quixotic. It's actually a lot cheaper for the designers to learn a little 3d and then outsource the photo-real work when they need the extra firepower. However, if your company wants the luxury and sense of control in having an internal 3d department then a plan would help. There are a few people on this forum that have gone through the same process and will give you plenty of great advice. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchrender Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 I think the thinking is that they realise that we are in demand all the time, and there may be another revenue to make from it. In that past a lot of good work has gone uncharged, and may be it is time to start charging for it. The business plan does apply, I agree, but there will aslo be a break down of the process and what is working in houe and what is not. Ironing out the kinks I think will be a major issue as time wasting is a factor when architects ie more than one they all want a different design. Thanks for the replies. phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlytE Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I did exactly this a year or so ago... It comes down to tallying up what overheads you are going to have (equipment, software, salaries, materials, bills etc), and working out how much income you are going to need in order to cover them. That cost can roughly equate to x amount of images per month which then sets up your project timescales, feeing levels and ultimately your staffing requirements. The next step is to assess what marketing needs you have and how to generate more work. Then you have the ball rolling. Although tricky in these times, try and do as accurate a forecast as you can for the next 2 and 4 years. I imagine you will also be getting fed alot of work from your parent office, so try to get them to pimp your services as much as possible wherever they can. The more on board they are about promoting their brand new 3D department, the more successful it will be in its first year. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1d2d3d4d Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 in addition, find a good form for managing billable hours per project and change costs etc. i.e approximate a possible render will take approx 20 hours + 5 hours for changes +10 hours preliminary work + 5 hours material research... i'd research all sorts of graphic design standards and contract forms as well... numbers speak louder than words a good way to look at it is: the company looks for clients but the company is your client when you do use words, try to use the word 'radiosity' as much as possible... good luck as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVI Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I was once asked to come "in-house" and run a 3D studio for a large architectural firm. They wanted it to run as a Bureau - where the architectrual company was a feeder of work to the 3D studio that did work "exclusively" for the them - I think this idea works nicely - it allows the 3D studio to function out of the system, but not ruin creativity that comes with being in-house. The Bureau would be setup as a company and registered and so forth. Projects would be treated as they would if they were dealing with an outsourced archvis company - ie. a proper change process, billing etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer abidi Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 when you do use words, try to use the word 'radiosity' as much as possible... lolll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihabkal Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I was once asked to come "in-house" and run a 3D studio for a large architectural firm. They wanted it to run as a Bureau - where the architectrual company was a feeder of work to the 3D studio that did work "exclusively" for the them - I think this idea works nicely - it allows the 3D studio to function out of the system, but not ruin creativity that comes with being in-house. The Bureau would be setup as a company and registered and so forth. Projects would be treated as they would if they were dealing with an outsourced archvis company - ie. a proper change process, billing etc etc. I was offered that option three times by three different firms since I returned to Lebanon, but basically they wanted to ride on my back and get renderings cheaply, and also get a portion of my income from freelancing, in exchange they would allow me to work 9 to 5 in one of their rooms. A lot of stories, I can tell, my friends... I calculated that if I was making 5 grands on my own, I would have to do twice the work and make $2500. I thought a lot about it but in the end I prefer to work in my house, or rent a small office instead. It would sure cost me a lot less than $2500 to rent a room in Lebanon. But that is how business is in Lebanon, everyone is trying to get you to become their free servant. Now in Canada or the US, employers value their employees and treat them much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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