AJLynn Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 store.microsoft.com added Windows 7 upgrade pre-orders today. The pre-order price is 50% off and all three of the editions up there are in both 32 and 64 bit. I just ordered 2 copies of Home Premium for $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 upgrade version?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattclinch Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 so the point of Vista was....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 so the point of Vista was....? To help Microsoft build character. To be fair, Windows 7 is an upgrade to Vista in the sense that Snow Leopard is an upgrade to Leopard. Not a heck of a lot of new features, more like improving on what's there. So Vista is obsoleted more quickly than XP was. But, hey, it's what the customers demanded. The discount on pre-orders is probably in response to Apple's $30 upgrade pricing. Apple's is cheaper but that price only applies to people upgrading from Leopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 wouldnt pay for a microsoft os tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb4026 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) When upgrading from Vista 64, what happens to all of my programs, do I have to reinstall? Is there a big difference between Home, Pro and Ultimate? For what we do, does one have an advantage over the other? Big diff in price. Edited June 26, 2009 by danb4026 add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinsley Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 When upgrading from Vista 64, what happens to all of my programs, do I have to reinstall? Is there a big difference between Home, Pro and Ultimate? For what we do, does one have an advantage over the other? Big diff in price. ...If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista)... just bought a copy of the home premium... for $50, definately worth a shot tom improve some of my issues with Vista. Thx for the heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadmunkey Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 My experience with Windows 7 beta has been a positive one. I'd highly recommend current Vista users to upgrade just for the speed increase and increased stability. Also the UAC has been improved dramatically to be a lot less intrusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 If you have Vista you can install 7 as an upgrade. If you have XP you must do a clean install. You can buy the 7 upgrade at the same price, but you can't do an upgrade install. I don't like doing upgrade installs of Windows anyway, but it does mean keeping all your software installers and license numbers in a reasonably organized way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 so the point of Vista was....? ...it was the ME to XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattclinch Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 ...it was the ME to XP. so how do we know this isn't another Windows 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I thought 2000 was a solid OS. Was it not around for a long time, or was it unstable? ....I remember it essentially being a NT4. Actually, wasn't ME geared towards home users, and 2000 corporate users during the same time period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 and how do we know that all our software/drivers are compatible with 7. that was the biggest issue with vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I am pretty sure if they are compatible with Vista, they are compatible with 7. 7 is essentially Vista polished and cleaned up. What it should have been to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 Windows ME was Windows 98.2. And it was bad. It was an example of Microsoft attempting user-friendliness, in line with Microsoft Bob. It was the last Windows built on the 95 architecture. Windows 2000 was NT 5.0. XP was NT 5.1. 2000 was a pretty big improvement over NT 4.0 (the last version that was called NT) because it added a bunch of hardware compatibility and new technology, and actual user friendliness. It was also quite usable by people used to 98, where NT 4.0 wasn't. It didn't crash. I used it for a few years; it took a long time for anything to come along that required XP, and at the time many of use viewed XP as pretty worthless and just a graphical polishing of 2000. Vista is NT 6.0. Windows 7 is currently a 6.1 version in its prerelease but I can only assume they'll increment the major version to 7 when they go gold master. They do claim driver compatibility from Vista to 7, FWIW. IIRC their claims of compatibility from 2000 to XP were less certain but the compatibility was actually quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Andrew, How do you feel about the performance of Windows7? I have been enticed for awhile now about the reports of Windows7 being fast. I loaded the updated public beta that was released early in May with the hopes that it would bring me to a new appreciation for what Microsoft has been doing for the past handful of years. Unfortunately this does not seem to be the case. The Windows7 feels quite a bit slower on equivalent hardware setups than XP. Granted the system I have it on is a old desktop that mainly serves as a home server. It was only scoring an average of 4.4 out of 7.9 on the Windows scoring test. Hardly ideal, and a sign that I need to upgrade this machine. But still, the are advertising as a savor of the company, but I hardly feel it is as fast as what XP has proven to be. Without going into detail, I am curious as to how you feel about it? Is it better? ....am I crazy? I guess I like my OS to shrink to a very small footprint, and not hinder the system in anyway. The software we use in general is very intense, and demanding on the hardware. Having an OS that takes up more resources than it needs to to get the job done is a real problem for me. I want something that is mean and lean, so that I have all the resources I can garner to go into the product I am trying to create, rather than have anything more than the necesity being sucked by the OS. Anyway, ...I am reloading Windows XP on the desktop/server as we speak. I have had it with 7 for now. I have begun upgrading the system, but am still shopping for all the components. Maybe this fall I will venture into a local comp store and test 7 on one of their machines, and see how the experience is. Until then I am going to be enjoy the speed I feel XP has, at least as long as XP is still round. Edited July 1, 2009 by Crazy Homeless Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Well, XP was of course designed for the hardware of several years ago and its interface runs faster because there's less system load from it. Remember how slow XP seemed compared to 2000. Happens every time. Usually the difference in app performance is smaller. Now as for Windows 7, having only used prerelease versions and never having done a real comparison to other Windowses, all I can say is it feels fast but really I have no idea what the actual performance difference is. I'd expect the final version to feel faster than Vista but slower than XP but that's not very scientific. For the old hardware I'd probably stick with XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'll be sticking with XP64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadmunkey Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I've bench tested Windows 7 vs. Vista and Win7 is definately faster. I also installed it onto an old laptop and it has given it a new lease of life which is pretty impressive considering. Mind you there is still plenty of time for Microsoft to ruin it before it goes gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amer abidi Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I'll be sticking with XP64 Same here, and for a very long time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 reading this it sounds like win7 is just a hot fix for vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinice Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Same here, and for a very long time!! And me as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattclinch Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 as much as i dislike apple products, at least 10.4 (tiger), 10.5 (leopard), 10.6 (snow leopard) lets you know where you are with versions and the names correlate. every microsoft OS is named, packaged, marketed and numbered differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beestee Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 reading this it sounds like win7 is just a hot fix for vista ...very similar to what XP was to 2000! Is there something wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 yup, you actually have to buy the fix as a new os. money making scheme I tell ya. why can't they just give us the hot fixes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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