3dwannab Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi was going to purchase the vray complete guide, AND was wondering if it comes if a pdf file on the dvd so that you can easily search the book instead of using the hardback edition all the time as it useful to do that sometimes. Cant wait to get me hands on it if thats the case PS what's your thoughts/views on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 no pdf version from what I know. would be nice though. I'm sure it would have gotten leaked on the internet the first week it was sold if it had a pdf version. that would kill the profits for the guy who created it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi75 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 x 2 on the no PDF version but the contents page is pretty good, I've never had a problem finding anything. Great book, well worth the $$ As mentioned above I totaly understand why he didn't do a PDF, it would kill the sales. All the little pricks out there would be sharing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dwannab Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 yeah he spent 2year's working on it so i should assume he thought of that..... Does it take long to arrive, can't wait to get my greasy hand's on it...wah hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 its a shame, because it already has been leaked and there is a PDF version floating around the web already. i won't say how i found it, as others may go on the search, but it was funny reading the comments on the post. clearly all written by dedicated professionals slating the guy who had uploaded it. everyone was defending the guy who had written it saying the uploader has basically destroyed the authors hard word and that he is a disgrace to the 3d society i agree, and i can say 'guilt free' and quietly happy with myself, that i didn't download it. i'm a big believer in you get out what you put in. if i wanna make money then i have to make investments, not take shortcuts. you reap what you sow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil poppleton Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 yeah he spent 2year's working on it so i should assume he thought of that..... Does it take long to arrive, can't wait to get my greasy hand's on it...wah hahaha No time at all to arrive. Something like 3-4 days..in our case. (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) its an ABSOLUTE PAIN IN THE ASS there is no pdf. if you have bought it you should be able to download a searcheable pdf or dvd. not my fault if someone shares it, why should i get a limited product because of someone elses actions etc. it such a massive book to thumb through, wish it didnt have a 'history of computers' in teh front as well. quiet a hard book to use imo. im off to find the PDF. Edited July 16, 2009 by nicnic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dwannab Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 it such a massive book to thumb throughEXACTLY it looks the same size as the BIBLE!! lol You pay good hard cash for some thing but he WAS a bit srude in not putting a searchable pdf bundled with it... If there is already a pdf version floating about then WHY bother not putting it in!!!!! Stil gonna get it though.. He might do in the future I HOPES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Pende Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Always liked more reading form a real book then from computer screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dwannab Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Always liked more reading form a real book then from computer screen. Although having a faster search method whilst working would be nice too, having read the hardback 1st though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Generally PDF versions are not included with books BECAUSE people share it. It's inevitable, so why allow piracy to happen in the first place. This is exactly why Brian Smith doesn't provide PDFs for his books. When he did not self-publish his publisher created a PDF and it was widely pirated. Piracy affects sales, so I can fully understand why people do not want to provide these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 but when it effects its usability other options need to be looked at. it reminds me of DRM protected music. soon to be outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dwannab Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 hi jeff, glad to meet the President/Founder himself and have his input. BTW love the site "GREAT JOB" BUT its still has managed somehow to leak onto the net. Have it bought now so awaiting it any day now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi75 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 So the people saying he should have provided a PDF, let me ask you this question. If you spent 2 years writing that book and new providing a PDF on the CD would destroy your sales and more than likely create a big loss, would you have done it?? The way I look at it these people put a lot of time and effort into these books and if they don't at least break even then they probably would never write them and we'd never have the opportunity to learn from them. my 2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 What I wonder is how it got out in the wild in the first place, expecially if it's not being distributed to paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 someone tore the book apart and scanned every page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 someone tore the book apart and scanned every page. Wow ok, and I was thinking it was the original PDF. Amazes me that someone has so little of a life that they would spend hours doing something like that for what return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 it is pretty sad to see that done to such a great book. what a waste! The author was really nice when I ordered from him with a group of friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi75 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 It is sad! You can understand the challenge of cracking a software key but actually taking the time to do such a monotonous task as scanning a book as big as this and in the process decimating your own copy. What a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dwannab Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Whaaaooo looks like i've opened up a can of worms, obviously the person bought the book and wanted to get recognition for passing it around from pillar to post. With something around a THOUSAND pages "OMG" and two years blood sweat and tears work put into it then it has to be said that it is the lowest of the low that done it. ***ON ANOTHER NOTE*** HAS ANYONE LEARNED A LOT FROM IT, EVEN IN THE MOST EXPERIENCED OF USERS OUT THERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 HAS ANYONE LEARNED A LOT FROM IT, EVEN IN THE MOST EXPERIENCED OF USERS OUT THERE Yes. Perhaps mr. McCoy was being sarcastic? I don't know, i haven't seen said .pdf. No doubt the book would have been given to the printer in .pdf format. Perhaps a dodgy printer makes a little pocket money on the side selling master pdfs? Dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'm curious as well how people find the writting. I read the English sample chapter pages on their website and found the the writting style/translation so poor I could hardly understand what I was reading. Felt like I was in High School again reading Shakespeare passages over and over to try to figure out what was being said. I understand there are a lot of images so maybe in this case that is all that is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 There are some issues here and there but I've not had a problem understanding any of it so far. But I've only read about 200 pages so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi75 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I've had a similar experience to WAcky, some parts I've had to read a few times but the majority has been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 bloody hell, i assumed teh pdf floating around was a proper one, teh scanned one wont even be searchable, which kind of defeats the purpose. yes I find the language poor, we havent utilised is half as much as we were expecting partly due to its language and partly due to its size. It could definately be edited down and consolidated into a far more user friendly product. It is useful, but not the kind of thing you can thmbu through and learn bits from. You need to know what you are looking for, which sometimes you ahve no idea what that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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