Frosty Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 I've done a few tests today, as I am going to be in a similar boat to strat in a few days. I'm going to need to simulate a number of people moving trough some animations. I've done tests with all the sample material I could get and realised this was going to be pretty tough. The Marlin libraries look the simplest to use. As strat had done I mapped the image/alpha sequence to a plane and animated it so that the foot-steps matched the movement of the plane. By the way strat, you can skip the conversion to .mov. Cinema picks up the numbered sequence fine as long as you tell it to use the sequence. Switch to ArchVision. This is what I really what to use as my scene is a lab and they have doctors(lab coats look scientific dont they ) Anyway, I discovered tonight that RPC comes in a propiertatry format that CANT be used. There is a PhotoShop plug to get out one frame at a time, but there is no appearent way to get out the sequence of say 600 frames. Is it possible? Anyone have any suggestions for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 By the way strat, you can skip the conversion to .mov. Cinema picks up the numbered sequence fine as long as you tell it to use the sequence. yeah i know, i just found it more convinient to use a single mov file. besides, i've also found the pc renders a mov quicker than it does sequentially numbered images. I've been nagging archvision for an rpc interface for c4d for over a year now. they keep telling me it'll appear one day :???: as it stands im looking into blue screening my own animated ppl. also Dosch will be creating they're own in january too. ppl have mentioned the 3d low poly route, but thats not the answer for me unfortunately. until rpc is available for c4d with is mock-simulated photo real 3d ppl, then i think we're stuck with 2d clips. not a bad prospect, only theres hardly and great choice available at present if you or anyone else can find d/l'able 2d clips or othere solutions pls post up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 23, 2003 Author Share Posted October 23, 2003 Could a frontal animation be created in Max whereby each frame of the 600 still animation of an RPC person is rendered out. Its messy, but it wouyld allow us to use RPC people as we would Marlin people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 absolutely, but that means having the rpc ppl in the first place [ October 28, 2003, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: STRAT ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_Face Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Has anyone contacted Archvision and asked if they would sell their animated sequences for use in apps like C4D that can't use RPC at the moment? At least they could sell more product to a wider audience until the plugins or native support is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 the question is what actually are their animated sequenses constructed of and how, and can they be used as just sequential images? if it's just a bunch of images then great i'll contact them early next week and reply back with their answer [ October 24, 2003, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: STRAT ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_Face Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Didn't notice any native support for RPC in the 8.5 release. Anyone hear anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 yeah, i spoke to the guys at rpc a few days back. rpc only sell the rpc package, not animated sequences from it separately apparently a third party is working on an interface as we speak [ November 04, 2003, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: STRAT ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Here is my two cents... First or easiest thing is, if you already have the rpc library for max, you can render only rpcs and for rendering output select tga file by either with pre-multiplied alpha or split alpha channel. (Do not save as avi/mov file, because you can not have alpha channel.) And you will have your own image sequence. This will give you opportunity to use them same as Marlin people. You can use them in any video editing software or 3D software. Second, the thing I am more focusing. Bluscreening / Greenscreening yourself or friends.. You can buy Neon Green color fabric ( this is better than blue fabric in basic environments)and then shot yourself or friends in front of it. The more fabric you have, the more area to shoot. After that you need After Effects to clean environment and deleting green color. This part needs experiment and little advanced video editing knowledge. Export them as image sequences.By finishing all of those steps, you have your own Marlin Studio library. You can use wherever you want. I can post one of my work in next days. It works pretty good. Besides the video editing part, if you / your friend can not act good in front of the camera, your gestures looks like having mental problems Before editing , take a look at have good he/she is.Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 just a quick note, in mov files you can add an alpha channel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by quizzy: just a quick note, in mov files you can add an alpha channel... you mean if i have a MOV of a person walking i can add an alpha channel of it? how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 well you need to color key ofcourse, but in MOV files you can add an extra layer that has alpha channel. Its (I think) only possible with the animation compression, its called "millions+ colors" or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Thanks quizzy, I didn't know that. Instead of saving as tga sequence, as you mentioned we can also render/export as quicktime "millions colors + " mode. If you do not want to deal with hundreds of image files, this can be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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