Christoff Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) I know there's a few threads about this already but I was hoping to get some advice and opinions based on my own personal situation. I've recently graduated from university where I studied CGI mainly using 3ds Max. A few days ago I contacted a company that sells bathrooms about a job they had advertised (I then found out that it's freelance work which wasn't stated in the advertisement so now I need to buy a copy of Max ). The job will include modelling, texturing and lighting bathroom fittings and fixtures and rendering them both on their own with a plain background, and together in a bathroom environment. As I've recently graduated from university and have no experience with freelancing, can anyone give me some rough estimates of what fair prices I should be expecting in return for the work? Currently neither I or the potential employer have mentioned any prices, nor do I yet know how much work I will be doing (how many objects I will model, how many bathrooms I will putting together) if I do the work. Any opinions and advice would be much appreciated. Edited September 4, 2009 by Christoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 No mention of freelance?.... I'd be wary of this one....but if you had intended to buy Max anyway, maybe others from the UK can advise on price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yea I would really think this over. You don't have a rate so you haven't really figured out business expenses but you are planning to buy a multi thousand dollar program? For 1 job? Of course you know your status right now better but seems like a huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoff Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well there was no mention that it was freelance in the job description, but it was only short, I was told that it was freelance when I phoned them up. I hadn't really thought about buying Max this soon, and I'd hope that this won't be the only job I use Max for. Whether I buy Max or not and accept the job will depend on how much I can make from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yea and dont plan to make up all of that immediately. I would be more concerned on whether or not you can get more work and justify the purchase of max on that than a single job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluc Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 If I where you, I would first make a price per hour, and offer to make them a quote. And only if the job is bigger than the cost of buying max. You can take it. This way you have max. and a good start in this business. If the job is small you better say no, or give the work to an other freelancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez(UK) Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 ......... or give the work to an other freelancer. Hi Christoff, I'm trying to get back in to Freelance 3DS work (after a fairly lengthy sabbatical). So I'd be really interested in taking this work if you are not able to do it. Though, first of all, where abouts in the UK is it ?? Kindest regards, Jez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I'm not sure what the job situation is like in your area but, if you can focus on getting into a studio then opt for that as 3k for max is a big cost. Maybe you might pass it on and develop some good working relationships and get back your good will in the future - this has worked for me. Another thing to consider is that rates should be set by experience and ability - be honest as to whether you have the skills to produce professional work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christoff Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Thanks for your advice everyone. I phoned the company again yesterday as they'd not replied to a couple of my emails, they told me the job went the day before and the person doing the job is doing 20 renders of individual items (e.g. cupboard, sink, etc) and one render of an entire bathroom, all for a TOTAL of £250! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 250 teh lot??? huhuhuhuhu bet they get a shit job for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinsley Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 bet they get a shit job for that unless the 250 is hiring someone over seas... then it could be hit or miss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 They'll spend more than 250 getting it fixed later, thats for sure. If you want an expensive job, hire an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horhe Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) TOTAL of £250! Yeah I know what you feel, someone picked up a job I was bidding for not long ago - some images of furniture for a catalog, for very little money too. If they want only to afford sand from the beach for their dinner and lunch, their choice. But the lesson here to learn, is dont prospone the decision to take aboard the work. I think you might have waited a bit too long. No matter, next time be a bit quicker with the decision making and you should be fine. Edited September 10, 2009 by Horhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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