3dway Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 For a very long time I've been looking for a viable solution in a large monitor to display more drawing. Using your average PC monitor used for word processing, to create a 36"x24" or worse a 48"x36" drawing is something akin to looking at the same size piece of paper through a paper towel tube while you draw with a mayline. Does anyone use or know of a viable solution (preferably not side by side or a built up monitor array of smaller monitors) that could display a D or in a dream world an E size drawing at a monitor resolution? By my ignorant calculations you need a monitor capable of 3456x2592. This machine ideally displays a PDF without altering line line thickness because it dropped that row of pixels to fit the image on the screen (or whatever it does that makes lineweight disapear or lines go missing when zoomed to a lower %) Dell's $2000 30" display is the only thing I find, but only with 1600 pixels vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Depends how much money you have to spend on this, but the only option I can think of is to use an array of projectors. The trick then becomes how to get all of those projectors to line up. There are a few solutions that I know of. You can contact a company like Barco who have special mounts for their projectors with lasers to allow you to precisely align and adjust them, or you can try giving Mersive a call http://www.mersive.com/ They have developed a technology that allows you to do real-time blending of projector arrays. They have created hug gigapixel displays in the past. They are still pretty new, so I don't know how far along they've come with the ability to output computer outputs. I don't think there is anything else that has that kind of res on a single device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 There are also solutions this:http://www.necdisplay.com/newtechnologies/curveddisplay/downloads/Curved%20DLP%20Brochure_0409.pdf but they are neither cheap, nor as high res as you are looking for. I don't think there are any single video cards that can output that kind of res either so whatever the solution it's going to require multiple high end display cards and output devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dway Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'm pipe dreaming here. Our firm is thrilled with their 19" LCDs. Spanking New this year. We're at the bleeding edge... if the back edge is bleeding. Actually, Where this discussion comes from is the classic debate between architects and technologists, or old schooler's and new schoolers who believe that the computer inhibits your creativity and ability to design. I will agree that it can trap you into the limitations of the tool, but that is a user failure to master the tool. The greatest shortcoming of the computer that does limit your ability to design is the inability to look at the whole. Whithout a sense of the whole floor plate, or whole site, or whole building, you cannot design as well. Looking at a CAD drawing through a monitor is like looking at a paper set of drawings through a paper towel tube. The BIM approach may ease this a little, but it's still very easy to get mired in the details too early. I feel like I have a better sense of the whole when I'm modelling in 3d, but I still get very zoomed in. For a traditional CAD perspective (which is more or less underusing the technology as a digital pencil) it seemed like being able to work on drawings in the (or as close to) the actual format of the product, would ease some of the abstraction between sheets, details, plans. To do that I feel like I need to be able to use the set like a paper set; the way the end user will be using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 My first thought is a projector but that still isn't a high enough resolution as you want. This is new by ATI though http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1069/1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytohaveher Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 It's really pretty simple. 1.Get two video cards, both with dual ports for a total of four ports. 2. Buy 4 identical HD projectors. Setup them up as a 2x2 grid in the windows control panel. This is about as far as the technology will go right now. It isn't perfect, but it is close. http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/category/conference-solutions?CP=nav:electronics:business:projectors:b2b&ref=http%3A//www.sony.com/index.php or http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/product/VPLCX120 3. Align the monitors and go to town. The real difficulty will be in keeping the projectors aligned. You will probably need a built unit with hard mounts for this. If it is of any note -- I have wanted the same thing for years. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 3. Align the monitors and go to town. The real difficulty will be in keeping the projectors aligned. You will probably need a built unit with hard mounts for this. Yup, that's what those Barco projector mounts and the Mersive techology solve. The physical mount adjustments with laser guidance is finicky and time consuming, but the Mersive technology does everything automatically. You could have projectors overlapping, turned sideways etc and their camera and calibration will automatically crop and adjust blending and luminance to create a single display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazdaz Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 You have to realize that monitors - compared to a printed page - are a very low resolution medium. A monitor will usually have a resolution that falls somewhere between 70 to 100 DPI, but most printed pages are done at 300 DPI*. It honestly would be way over-kill, but to achieve the same level of detail on a monitor would require a 36x24" display to be running at 10,800 x 7,200 pixels, which is way beyond what is realistically possible today. Maybe some ultra-high rez medical technology can display that high, but I honestly doubt it. *I realize it's not really directly comparable because one measurement is dealing with individual pixels, while the other is dealing with dots to create the specific colors, but suffice it to say that even modern monitors are way lower-rez than even low-rez printed pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dway Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx Multi monitor seems like the way the industry is bound, since you will not likely get anyone making any lcd with resolution beyond what sells to the general public for the HD standard. The question is, if you decase monitors, could you make them near seamless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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