Brian Cassil Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 This isn't for me directly (although I may use it some too). This will be primarily for the markup or "redline" process that the architectural project managers and drafters use. Right now the process is for the drafter to print a set of drawings, then the project manager "redlines" them, then the drafter implements those revisions. We are trying to become as paperless as possible and therefore are looking for a method of doing this all digitally. We would like to have the drafter create a .pdf set, than the project manager can use a VERY SIMPLE AND EASY TO USE program to mark them up with a wacom tablet. Then the drafter could refer to that on a second monitor and make the changes. So, here's what I think we are looking for as a markup tool: 1. Inexpensive (free would be great but we could spend a little money. We need this for lots of people. Acrobat pro is too expensive. 2. EASY TO USE. (can't stress that one enough) 3. Compatible with a wacom tablet 4. Has layers (in some cases multiple people would markup drawings) 5. Can import and export .pdf files If anyone else has experience doing markups this way and could suggest some other considerations, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hello Brian, I dont know how well it would work in the office, but http://www.cozimo.com provide a fairly flawless interaction tool. I use it with clients all the time. Its free to a certain extent, certainly enough to test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Autodesk Design Review is free and supports 2d drawings and 3d interactive model info using the dwf format. Also has support for PDFs. http://www.autodesk.co.uk/designreview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonRashid Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I thought AutoCad already had a markup command built in. It's been there for a number of years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Yes but by issuing drawings as dwf they are protected from editing but still allow printing, measuring and commenting. Also you can export a 3d model from max using the dwf format which the client can then navigate in real time, turn layers on/off and attach comments etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I'll be downloading Design Review and a couple of guys will be checking it out today. Thanks Stef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I just had a client ask me about being able to view a 3d model with the materials and all that attached, and I was looking at the 3d PDf function of acrobat. I hadn't really ever tried design review, but just did. It seems to work pretty well, and it's free, so you can't beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) So I've played around with it for a little and I like it but there is one requirement for our needs that it does not meet, and that is it won't save or export .pdf files. For me personally that isn't a deal breaker completely but for office wide use across multiple disciplines it is. So the search continues... edit... or mayber someone knows of a free (or really cheap for 100 people to use), easy, .dwf to .pdf converter? Edited September 17, 2009 by Brian Cassil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkofmainchester Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 My personal opinion -based on real life experience - is that "paperless" redlining doesn't relly work - unless you have an A0 screen slow refresh screen a la Kindle that is. But if you really need to go with the hype I would uggest investigating the Adobe Life Cycle Server solution which lets you do mark-ups with plain old Arcobat Viewer, or the PDF-XChange-Viewer (you may need the PRO version to suit your needs. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 edit... or mayber someone knows of a free (or really cheap for 100 people to use), easy, .dwf to .pdf converter? Found it. CutePDF I can use it to print .pdf files from just about any program, and it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 My personal opinion -based on real life experience - is that "paperless" redlining doesn't relly work - Maybe, but that's not the point. The point is to reduce the amount of printing, marking, scanning, mailing, etc. as much as possible. I'm actually fairly impressed with design reviews abilities and at the same time it seems pretty easy and intuitive. That's kind of funny becuase I haven't felt that way about much of anything Autodesk for a long time, and now that I do, it's about a free program they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Perhaps a bit low tech, but I just use Acrobat. However, on some occasions I will redline an image in photoshop using colors to define priority on comments. For instance, all my 'absolutes' in red, my 'preferred' in green and my 'if we have time' in blue. And so on . . . Super simple I know, but it works and artists can all use photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mblar Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 http://www.vistime.com/ created by guys i work with, so Arch-Viz was an area that was considered in its development. check it out. theres a demo available on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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