chow choppe Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 hi everyone i took up a project for photomontaging but this will be my first photomontage. i read a few threads about camera match utility inside max but for that u need 5 points in 2 planes. But what if you dont have the survey plan or you dont know the cordinates. What client gave me is a location and no picture he said to use google street maps and see if that can help Ok. So i grabbed a picture from google street but its was not at good resolution and in google street maps u can zoom with specific intervals values . So i am facing 2 problems 1.) the image is not at very good resolution( but that will be the only image i have as client said its snowing currently so he would prefer the google street image). So how to get a bigger resolution image or look for alternatives 2.) and i am not able to zoom the image and take view froma specific point that i want and not what google wants me to station at. IS it possible? So once i am able to solve the good resolution and good angle image issue i would like to know how can i work out the coordinates for photograph and 3d model so that i a able to use the camera match in 3dsmax. Thsi is my first photomontage project an i dont want the client to suffer Please help me with your suggestions. Thanks P.S heres the image from gogole street where i have marked the building also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippu Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i never ever use camera match ..draw some perspective lines and try coming up with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow choppe Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 HI maria can u please share ur workflow in more detail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 You need to know what the image is for, that will let you know determine the 'accurate vs beautiful' ratio..... I would say first that damn, you were lucky to get such a good shot from google map. Secondly, unlucky, alkthough its good for google map, its still google map. A montage is only as good as the photo its put in. This will not be a nice shot. You could petition your client to either: 1: Do an npr image 2: use 3d for more than just the building (not a photo-montage, just do it in 3d). If you are stuck with the photo, I would spend a while cleaning it up and consider removing the telephone lines. Dont bother using camera match, it will not be too helpful as this maybe a few photos stitched together already and you maybe have a solid reference distance. Just eyeball it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Zaslavsky Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 hi chow i too agree with Tommy that it will all start with the quality of the photo With my case fortunately I could get to the location myself and take a higher resolution photo - but that still required me to clean up the image and having to remove phone lines and make it a marketing image - see this page: http://www.eagleproperty.com.au/EVP/articles/townhouse-development-photo-montage-.html Even then i think it still needs a fair bit of work - but the client was happy so i left it at that. it was a little while ago and i found a tutorial on the internet that basically took through the workflow of drawing perspective lines on the photo, placing it into 3DS as background, then aligning the model to suit the image and then rendering it out with a plane under the object in matte/shadow to allow for the shadows to come out for Post-processing into the photo. the main problem I think you will have is the low resolution photo from Google maps which looks like its been already sewn up from two photos which will make it even more complicated to clean up. good luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 It looks like that shot is 4 or 5 photos stitched together. Even the best job will not be accurate. That does not mean it will not look good, it just means you are starting with little more than junk. ...and while you can polish a turd, it will never be marble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Zaslavsky Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 3 or 4 days of constant polishing in their off time that was hilarious Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 It looks like that shot is 4 or 5 photos stitched together. Even the best job will not be accurate. That does not mean it will not look good, it just means you are starting with little more than junk. ...and while you can polish a turd, it will never be marble. Haha, I knew what that link was going to lead to before I even clicked it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow choppe Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 hi chow i too agree with Tommy that it will all start with the quality of the photo With my case fortunately I could get to the location myself and take a higher resolution photo - but that still required me to clean up the image and having to remove phone lines and make it a marketing image - see this page: http://www.eagleproperty.com.au/EVP/articles/townhouse-development-photo-montage-.html Even then i think it still needs a fair bit of work - but the client was happy so i left it at that. it was a little while ago and i found a tutorial on the internet that basically took through the workflow of drawing perspective lines on the photo, placing it into 3DS as background, then aligning the model to suit the image and then rendering it out with a plane under the object in matte/shadow to allow for the shadows to come out for Post-processing into the photo. the main problem I think you will have is the low resolution photo from Google maps which looks like its been already sewn up from two photos which will make it even more complicated to clean up. good luck, so u made that with camera match or naked eye adjustment? i am morec oncerned about macthing the camera view rather than the resolution of the image. When i opened that street image in pshop it was at 72 DPi and 20" x 12". so i tld the client that is the output we will give him so he is fine with it. did i do something terribly wrong here? Are u talking about this tutorial ? http://en.9jcg.com/comm_pages/blog_content-art-30.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francosd Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Google Sketchup is good for camaera match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhzpqf7fywM and you can render there or exported to 3d max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Zaslavsky Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Chow, i did the image with just matching it by eye rather than camera match. it wasnt that tutorial - i spent a good 30 mins searching through my bookmarks for the tutorial - but couldnt locate it. and google wasnt much help either. as Travis said before - that image is a combination of a number of photos - so it just means that to get a great looking image that will fit into the background - you'll need to do a fair bit of cleaning up in PS hope the above is helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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