Disgraceful recent UK "Job" advert on CGA

[martin walker]

Im opening myself up for a load of flak, but I'm disgusted by a recent Job ad on CGA for a UK company offering £8-£12 per hour for freelancers.

 

Driving down costs like this doesn't do any of us any favours....I dont know anyo self respecting freelance designer in the UK who can afford to work for £56 per day....it just feels like this is an exploitative "everyone is scrapping for work....lets rape them" attitude.

 

I often use freelancers for overflow work, and I pay them a decent rate for a decent days work..and the agencies I freelance for have the same attitude.

 

lets not demean our profession by driving prices down to ridiculous levels.

 

rant over !

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

They will get what they pay for. £12 an hour is going to get second rate, student/intern work at best. ...or outsourced to another country where communication barriers will drive up the price anyway.

[martin walker]

I hope your right Travis....but it just sends out the wrong message that what we do is "minimum wage"

[Jeff Mottle]

Yeah, I doubt they are going to get anyone with much experience applying at those rates. I think it's way too low as well, but I guess it's their prerogative to advertise whatever rates they want. As Travis said, ultimately they will get what they pay for. Even someone good who is really hurting for cash is not likely going to work for such little money as it's certainly not going to pay their bills, at least not local talent.

[ihabkal]

I read the ad, and the location of the companmy is in a city with no public transportation. The cost of living in rural and abandoned areas is much lower than in London or major cities. Maybe the salary or payment offered are enough for a local to have a decent living. I remember in Toledo, 35K/year was enough to live on, in Boston, I crunched the numbers once when I was offered a job and 60K wasn't enough. In New York 90K is considered low.

On the positive side, 5 jobs on CGA for locations in the UK, seems the British empire is back on track for recovery.

[JonRashid]

I'm not sure they have thought the job through. They are actually paying the permanent job at a higher rate than they are offering freelancers?????

 

Not come across that scenarion before.

[DanGrover]

That's the free market though, right? Times are tough, everyone's scrapping for jobs, so companies can "rape" freelancers on fees. In this instance, the company wins. But it works both ways. When you have the skills employers want, they'll scrap over you, and you can "rape" them (the highlight of any career, surely?) and as a consequence drive up your wages. In a less relevant sector, when Asda and Tesco scrap for customers and prices go down, the consumer wins. Ultimately, there are very few ebbs and flows in the market which has real, long term negatives, even if they seem so right now. It's a great system and it works; You just have to put up with the rough times as well as the smooth.

[ihabkal]

why rape when you can get married and get it every day? not!

[dean@pikcells]

It does sound to me like the advert is for a perminant position, but also freelancers should get in touch too.

 

As said above, it's a free market. For someone flipping burgers at McDonalds, £12 an hour freelance contract would see very interesting!

 

But as I always say, "Pay peanuts, expect monkeys!"