Alya Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Hi, everybody! I'm new here and I'm looking for some Onyxtree tutorial, because we had a lot of problems with that plugin. Well, if anybody knows another trees and plants tutorial that runs better I'll be very happy with it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hi alya, Pls browse this forum (use the search) to find a lot of info on trees: 3d, 2d,... rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuninho Prieto Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hi Alya, What version of Onyxtree you are using? What version of max? (or other software?) What kind of tree you are trying to model? Onyxtree can build broadleaf, palms, conifers and bamboo trees. what problems you are facing? (too many questions ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pradipta Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 we are also looking for some Onyxtree tutorials. can anybody help me to find some? thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunDon Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 What exactly are y'all looking for a tutorial to tell you that the manual doesn't? I found the Onyx system quite well documented (for third-party software) and had them up in running in an hour. You might check those docs over if you haven't already. Good luck! Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pailhead Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 A tutorial on how these guys achieve their onyx tree look would be most helpful. http://www.icubeviz.com/ I find both the documentation and the software way complicated. I remember busting my brains trying to figure out how one of the sliders work, I think its the one for the plate leaves resolution. Using the same plug-in I find people making totally realistic trees (the billion poly forest on chaos forums), or totally impressive trees like iCube, or totally cg looking trees like most of the people. I think a tutoral, or some tips would be most welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jophus14 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I see some Onyx shrubs and trees that look realistic, but then I see some that look horrible. Is this plug-in that hard to use? I looked at the Onyx Gallery and some of those images looked great, but then the vegetation on some of the other images looked like a 2D maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The real trick in getting Onyx to look good is in the materials. Creating a nice 3D tree structure takes all of 20-30 seconds, even if you want to add wind. The materials are what make the difference. A one page tutorial if written properly would be all you need...unfortunately the manual is pretty convoluted and lengthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jophus14 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Are you able to select just the leaves and add a bitmap to them and then do the same for the trunk and so on? I thought the program was able to import what ever tree or flower was created into vray without needing to "rework" it. That would be a pain to have to apply maps to leaves, branches and trunks everytime you create a new tree. It would be even worse with flowers. Maybe I'm not understanding the plug-in fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Are you able to select just the leaves and add a bitmap to them and then do the same for the trunk and so on? I thought the program was able to import what ever tree or flower was created into vray without needing to "rework" it. That would be a pain to have to apply maps to leaves, branches and trunks everytime you create a new tree. It would be even worse with flowers. Maybe I'm not understanding the plug-in fully. It's simple. Just add maps to the subobject materials (vegetation is all one object). Different vegetation will have a different arrangement of material IDs, but it only takes a second to load maps from a mat library. Honestly, you shouldn't be in the habit of creating all new vegetation over and over again for each project anyway. For example, I use the same 3 or 4 coconut palm trees over and over again, rather than creating a whole new set from scratch. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlangas Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Brian, do you think getting the tree storm plugin is worth it? I use max/vray and will most likely use proxies. what do you recomend I get? should I just go for the super bundle? sorry to get a little off topic but its related to onyxtree.. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 i would absolutely get storm whether you get the whole package or not. with proxies you can't animate the vegetation, but really if you want animated vegetation, you really only need to show it in a limited number of foreground objects (especially when you get the camera movements just right). so if you have say 100 3d trees total, you could proxy about 90 of them (which wont increase file size or consume much ram) and you could leave 10 animated trees as onyx objects. that few won't hurt your resources much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Smith Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I'd agree about a tutorial, or a step-by-step on what is most important and in what order. I agree it's easy to open a tree definition and save a 3DS. But if you want to start from scratch, it can be daunting. Recently, we have been needing some more mature trees, but the majority of broadleaf definitions are 3-4m high. I'd like them more in the 18m range. There is no simple "maturity" slider, so you have to adjust every parameter to make it happen. See where I'm going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew_almighty Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Check the 3dats website, go to the "free tutorials" link on the bottom and then go to week 24. I'd post the link but don't have enough posts to these forums to allow hyperlinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.Demirel Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Check the 3dats website, go to the "free tutorials" link on the bottom and then go to week 24. I'd post the link but don't have enough posts to these forums to allow hyperlinks. Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Might be off-topic, but since we're talking about proxies and stuff: Mental Ray Proxies ================== Make sure you use BSP2 in the Render settings. I used the proxies last week for a 6000x300 render of a couple of thousand batteries (around 63 million polygons) and the RAM usage didn't go above 500MB. Rendering -> Render Setup -> Renderer (tab) -> Rendering Algorithms -> Ray Tracing -> Raytrace Accelleration [x] Enable Method: BSP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Here's an updated, and higher quality recording of our 1 hour Onyx video tutorial. http://3dats.com/onyx.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfured20 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Thanks for the link, Brian... I hadn't seen this before, and look forward to viewing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M. Gruhn Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Finally managed to be able to / get around to see the tut. Thanks for putting that together. One thing that has kept me shy from Onyx was the general inability to know anything about working with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishmantrijo Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 this a great stuff to know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinsley Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Looks like the link is broken Brian... any chance of having it fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreg Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 me too me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Zaslavsky Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 me three please i just got onyx for max 2010 and very excited to start using it properly. my tree models are still looking 2D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johaim Rakim Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 me three please i just got onyx for max 2010 and very excited to start using it properly. my tree models are still looking 2D hello, what is that onyx? is it a software for making a tree? or a plug-in for max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bev.lynn Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 You can find out all about Onyx Trees, Grass, etc. here: http://www.onyxtree.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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