DennisB Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Per the Tree Grows in Brooklyn thread, I've written and posted the PDF tutorial on using digital photos as templates for painting trees. The necessary tools for Painter are available as well. For the time being, the tutorial is exclusive to CGArchitect. The URL is http://www.gardenhose.com/phototute.mv There's a "non-commercial use" license you have to click through, but that's it. The thread itself is about using Photoshop to finish a painted tree. The tutorial provides the tree. So if you do the tutorial, please post some "before and after" Photoshop images for Q & A on how you gave the tree character. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I've moved it here... Thanks for sharing your info!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hi Dennis, I'm looking very forward to this! But the link does not work... can you provide a correct one? tnx nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I think I souldn't have moved it here because I think he works with a referral authentication... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I think I souldn't have moved it here because I think he works with a referral authentication... I think its just off-line, cause the link worked yesterday, i took a quick glimpse at it, Very nice tut btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Jaap, Yes I know that the link worked yesterday, but I moved it last night, and now the link has another referral address.... [begin dutch]Welkom trouwens en ik hoop dat je wat hebt aan dit forum [end dutch] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Tnx Dennis, it looks great. I'll move over to the office and try some ,-) rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Yep, its up agian, Thx Dennis gonna try this out some day, [@quizzy] Bedankt Michiel en euhh niets dan lof over dit forum, echt super proffesioneel en behulpzaam, jullie doen goed werk hier !! keep it up ![/@quizzy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 't Is wel professioneel hé ;-p loooooooool! nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Back to english now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpico Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I'm itching to get painter and try this out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisB Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 The thread itself is about using Photoshop to finish a painted tree. The tutorial provides the tree. So if you do the tutorial, please post some "before and after" Photoshop images for Q & A on how you gave the tree character. Hmmm, something's missing here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Here is a try at it. The Painter tree had some balance problems in the scene, shadows too dark and maybe a little off on saturation and color/hues. *Clone stamped the original tree out, quickly *Magic brush selected the painter tree out white bg pasted in scene *Magic brushed the clear area for new mask and shrunk the selection 1 px to get rid of the white bg outline. *Copied layer, color (fill 41%) and painted a green solid & molted tans to the body of the mask-stauration issues, and masked the tree trunk-no effect needed. *Created a normal set, moved all tree all layers in. *Gradient map adjustmetn layer for greyscale. Turned off bg and copied merged. *Pasted new layer, inverted, desaturate & adjust lightness and set to screen 24% then to 15% - brighted the shadows in and amongst the foliage. *Set a layer mask and painted to elimate the the proir effect on tree trunk. *Set up a curves layer to fine tune the background to match the tree. Although the painter tree is a sycamore, it more closely resembles the typical maple plantings in my area. There is a Taco Bell right up the street that is almost the splitting image of this picture, I keep looking for the local state highway patrol station that would be just to the right, it's wierd! Not sure if I my methods are conventional or even work that well, but the painter tree seems to fit better now than before. The masking could be smoother but thats a time consuming mask painting job to do it right. Maybe it's time to get PhotoPaint back in the workflow & coupled with painter? WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisB Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 LOL... but did you paint a tree or use the existing one I painted? Sounds like you did some good work, regardless. I've started a rainforest series. It's not really related to this tutorial, other than painting trees. The first one turned out okay, but hope they'll improve as I do some more over the next week. Don't know that they're good for much (as in earning a living), but I'm looking forward to seeing how this one translates to an Epson pigmented print. Maybe it will work on a wall. Original size is 2500x3500 using Jungle 3D and Forestry http://www.gardenhose.com/images/rainforest.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpico Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Very nice Dennis, it looks very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 LOL... but did you paint a tree or use the existing one I painted? Sounds like you did some good work, regardless. I've started a rainforest series. It's not really related to this tutorial, other than painting trees. The first one turned out okay, but hope they'll improve as I do some more over the next week. Don't know that they're good for much (as in earning a living), but I'm looking forward to seeing how this one translates to an Epson pigmented print. Maybe it will work on a wall. Original size is 2500x3500 using Jungle 3D and Forestry Well Dennis, Was I supposed to paint a tree in phototshop? hehehe. I used the tree that was in the tutorial. I upgraded my systems and did not re-install your app for corel, yet. Your plugin in PS would be incredible, the slightly better blending & such would put your trees over the top! Yes, I did send an e-mail. Maybe I'll try disecting some of the corel created stuff and stick it in PS, is that what you had in mind? WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisB Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Yes, I did send an e-mail. Good, maybe Adobe will do something. The technology has been around for nearly 10 years now. Since the technology has proven itself over the years, it would be nice to see Adobe adopt it at long last. Maybe I'll try disecting some of the corel created stuff and stick it in PS, is that what you had in mind? Yes, but you raise a good point. The tree from the tutorial, at least the one against the white background, was already altered. Having you paint the tree using the nozzle and a demo version of Painter means everyone starts with the same problem. If you extracted the unaltered, "painted" tree from the PDF, then I suppose you did start from the same point, only absent the painting process. That's the good point. Why not just give people the tree, omit the tutorial and suggest that as the common starting point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 That's the good point. Why not just give people the tree, omit the tutorial and suggest that as the common starting point? Better yet, post the layers of the nozzled tree and combine in PS, then all of the control is avialable to create better depth, tune the tree for image comp, even create fall from summer foliage......... Then you would really be starting from the best possible starting point in this workflow. I think that unlocks the true beauty of the plugin and would spur more feed back to Adobe. Maybe even gain some leverage if photopaint plugin generated media might be used extensively in PS. WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisB Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Better yet, post the layers of the nozzled tree and combine in PS, then all of the control is avialable to create better depth, tune the tree for image comp, even create fall from summer foliage......... Then you would really be starting from the best possible starting point in this workflow. I think that unlocks the true beauty of the plugin and would spur more feed back to Adobe. Maybe even gain some leverage if photopaint plugin generated media might be used extensively in PS. WDA Try this. http://www.gardenhose.com/ftp6/layered_tree.zip It's the shadowed nozzle painting from the tutorial tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisB Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Why image sprayer technology makes sense for Photoshop, or how I spent my summer vacation. http://www.gardenhose.com/rainforest-4.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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