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Forgive me now for this

 

But is it just me or has the news so far been pretty poor coming out of Siggraph.

I know I am not there but it's all graphic cards which cost a hell of a lot of money and not much else ?

 

Vray might save the day but with no hints at all which in it's self is pretty poor and a bit apple like in their thinking not much else excites me.

 

Am I alone........alone.......... alone

 

phil

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Jeff

Thnaks

 

it's a reflection on your posting it's the type of news coming out of it.

Is it the most interesting year...............?

I supose the Real time thing has really hit home from our perspective, and it's not that new to us now.

 

Look forward the news next week.

 

Thanks

 

Phil

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Well to be honest rarely does new news come from SIGGRAPH as it's usually out long before the show. The only things that I saw that were of great interest was the public demo of several v-ray 2.0 features, and the NVDIA/mental images tech demo of iray in 3ds Max. Both of which I have info on.

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One thing that did stand out among all others (at least for me) at the exhibition was all the S3D technology out there. I saw so many S3D systems it was giving me a headache. Different types, different sizes, analglyph, shutter, polarized...and they all had the better system than the other guy. One thing is for sure, S3D will be hitting the market big time!

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Yeah, reminds me of when SIGGRAPH was all VRML and web 3d stuff. Every 2 years SIGG has some new trend that 9 times out of 10 dies away. I'm still not 100% sold that this 3D fad will stick with us for the long run. Certainly in entertainment it's going to last a while, but in business...I'm not sold yet. Had a discussion with Jon Peddie (a well known and respected industry analyst) and he disagreed with me (though he was coming from the entertainment and gaming angle), but I honestly don't see 3d making any major inroads in architecture. Especially not with Autodesk always showing those really crappy red/green 3d demos. A technology needs to cross the novelty line before it will make inroads in the arch business. Right now it's all novelty and I don't see many uses which add something to the experience. There was one interesting demo in the emerging technologies section, but at $30K per unit, that's not going to fly either.

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I sat through a presentation that Autodesk gave on 3d where the used the red/blue glasses but they also said at the time that the process of rendering the images out was the same regardless of what type of 3d technology you were going to use in the end. So what is red/green now may be easily converted to polarized or other methods once the technology is more affordable for the general consumer.

 

Granted that is the way I understood it from the conversation. There is probably quite a bit more complex than that.

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Jeff, was it that 3D shutter viewer table map thing those French guys had? It was a table type thing and two viewers on either side could rotate and zoom in and out of the 3D map...kind of like a google earth map. That was pretty neat. But, yeah it was $$$ after I asked them how much it was. I think it was "Immersion". He told me $40 - $50,000.00.

 

It was a clunky machine, but I'm thinking that in the near future the LCD 3D screens will be touchscreen anyway, that you'll be able to do the same thing with "Real D" glasses instead of shutter glasses.

 

I did notice that a lot of the shutter glasses had ghosting, but I saw no such effects with the circular polarized glasses.

 

The Sony 360 autostereoscopic was neat, but definitely limited to basically a cylinder. Can't do much with that in architecture.

 

I'm assuming you guys all saw the TRON Legacy talk? That was amazing in 3D. The environments and 3D depth were spectacular!!!!!!!!

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Jeff, was it that 3D shutter viewer table map thing those French guys had? It was a table type thing and two viewers on either side could rotate and zoom in and out of the 3D map...kind of like a google earth map. That was pretty neat. But, yeah it was $$$ after I asked them how much it was. I think it was "Immersion". He told me $40 - $50,000.00.

 

Yup that was the one. I got the guys card so I could do an interview with them in the future. Was a cool idea.

 

The Sony 360 autostereoscopic was neat, but definitely limited to basically a cylinder. Can't do much with that in architecture.

 

Yeah that was pretty cool too. That technology has come a long ways in the last few years. Can't wait to see it get bigger and better resolution.

 

I'm assuming you guys all saw the TRON Legacy talk? That was amazing in 3D. The environments and 3D depth were spectacular!!!!!!!!

 

Yeah, I've not had time to see any session in the last 5-6 years, but I made time to see this. I've heard a lot of mixed reviews about the film both technically and storyline, but for Joe's sake I hope it's a smash hit. I thought it was awesome and the sound was really good, but I guess I'm jaded. You could really see Joe's finger print on it though in how the scenes and lighting were treated.

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Jeff, did you stay for the Q&A? I was the one that asked Mr. Kosinski the architectural question at the end....ha ha! I just had to get up there and ask a question about his architectural background you know? It really intrigued me that someone with an architectural background has moved into film.

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It's funny during those Q&A's hardly anyone goes up to the mic. I'm not one to just jump and be the first one, but to me we just saw an amazing 8 minutes of footage in 3D and the DIRECTOR is sitting up there as well as the other guys who put it all together I just thought this was a once in a lifetime opportunity so I just went up to that mic...ha.

 

Yeah, I really wanted to know about his past history in architecture. I really feel that film and architecture share many of the same ideas. Even going to some of the courses regarding pipelines and workflows I could tell there was frustration with software development and integrating new methods into workflows and pipelines. Our office is dealing with similar issues converting to Revit....of course not on the same scale as the big Viz studios. So, in the end I wasn't that surprised that someone with an architectural background is directing a movie. It makes sense in some ways. It's all a visual experience either way and it's telling a story.

 

It was definitely inspirational to see what other fields and areas people with architectural backgrounds can enter.

 

BTW, I really did like that 3D table map though. It was neat to see these laser beams coming out of your fingers onto the map :-)

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