Graham Nixon Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 hello everyone, my first post, i'm a total 3d noob and wanted some advice on how to do those architrave details around windows! i tried lofting but just got wierd shapes. i use 3ds max. any ideas? i guess the same principles would apply to coving and skirting board? whooo this is a big thing to crack i now realise. please heeeeeelp!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 what went wrong with the lofting? it should be a simple operation of lofting simple closed shape (the architrave profile) along a rectangular path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 If you are using Max, bevel profile is the best tool for this kind of job. Its similar to a loft but you apply the "bevel profile" as a modifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 hi strat, yeah i know from Ted (GOD) Boardmans tutorials that it should be simple but i just cant get it to work. ill describe it. i make a spline in a kind of inverted U shape, but with squared off edges, get it? then i make my fancy architrave shape (closed spline) do the loft operation, and end up with a hedgehog. lol. is there a way i can post the max file for peeps to look at??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 BEVEL PROFILE its hedgehog proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 hi jim, how do i profile architrave round a window or door then. i'll send you a e:pint if you can describe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 that was sposed to be e : pint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Got to say...BEVEL PROFILE also. But if you want to loft, make sure you choose the rectangular path first, and then choose the profile of the architrave as the "shape". The hedgehog might be because you choose the other way around. -Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 bevel would be good. but i personally think loft is equally as good. as mentioned it's a case of picking the path first then the shape, and getting the axis/orientation points correct. heres a quick 20 second example - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 thanks for getting back strat, i tried it again but its just a mess. here's a picture. doesn't look like my window somehow. lol. what am i doing wong, im going mad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 do you want to post up the file and let me take a look at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 here is the file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicks Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 >i work most of the time with bevel profile. if you are just starting, i say use this modifier. >i work only with loft if i have a "path" going in 3d(x-y-z) image attached >did u scale the profile/spline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 sorry m8, you'll have to dxf it, only i have viz 4 here not max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 aaaah, yes i did scale the shape. thats bad isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicks Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 i opened your file. You did scale down your profile. TRy to make another, it should work out ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Ok, First problem was your unit set-up. You needed to set the system units to metres as well as the display units. The second and main problem was identified by Kicks. You have scaled the profile. In some circumstances, though you might have scaled an element it remembers its original size and that is what gets used by the modifier for some reason. To get round this problem, go to the Utilities panel and apply "reset x-form" to the profile. Typically you would then collapse the shape back to an editable spline but I have left the modifier there for you to have a look Then apply the "bevel profile" to the architrave path shape and then pick the cross section as your profile. To get it the right way round you can rotate or move the profile gizmo. Another method would be to reposition the pivot point on the profile shape itself. The bevel profile is great for architraves, kerbs mouldings and basically any other element with a cross section that remains unchanged along its path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 thanks you guys, i just tried it and it works a treat. bevel profile, i love you!!! i'm gonna spend the afternoon making dado rails and coving. thanks again to all who helped out, i never would have just "worked out" that scaling problem. i'm sure we'll meet up again, i think i may have to post a lot of questions. lol. cheers graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Try this on: http://www.cgarchitect.com/upclose/TB/default.asp Look for the heading "Lofting Part 1" towards the bottom. Should be a big help. I know I used it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nixon Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 thanks chad, im sure 'll be an expert lofter by 2008. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 thanks you guys, i'm gonna spend the afternoon making dado rails and coving. Oh dear, what have we done!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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