Sketchrender Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Has anybody looked at both (edit: Lumion and Twinmotion) and what's the verdict ? Price alone one wins hands down but feature wise, speed ect............? phil Edited December 20, 2010 by Brian Cassil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Lumion's not out. Twinmotion is, but until it gets a bug fix release, who knows how good it is. Right now, I wouldn't buy into any of this - wait until you've got your hands on a matured demo version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchrender Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Exciting thread Have to agree with you. I think it all has pontential to bring the cost down to clients. We spend so long getting the detail of renders right and only we know what it means, they don't so if I think if clients will except the twinmotion quality and a fast turn over it might give some 3D artists the edge. But as you said not much excitement about it. People are holding on to their money and who can blame them. phil Edited November 2, 2010 by philip kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Great, keep us in the loop here (withins the limits of the don't-advertise-except by-going-through-Jeff-Mottle rule, please). A lot of people here would be excited to see more options for real time display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Well, now I've tried the Lumion demo, haven't tried importing anything but just using the included content, and I like it so far. The imaging is high quality, it's pretty quick on my Radeon 5750 1GB (which is surprisingly good but slower than anything that should be bought for professional use these days) and unlike the Twinmotion demo it didn't crash If I had the need, I could see buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 DL'ing demo version now. Watching the tutorials, I am impressed. I am curious to what kind of hardware they were running these on though. Any idea Andrew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I haven't seen anything about that but I'd think they should run on any decent current hardware, considering it runs on my home desktop and it's quick enough to not be annoying. Looks like DirectX and they're recommending a Geforce 460, Radeon 5850 or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 My work computer is a dog. This Quadro FX1700 can barely deal with it and the core2duo is slowwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Yeah, that's not going to handle this stuff well at all - the minimum from the Lumion web site is a Geforce 8800 series and your Quadro's more like an 8600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buchhofer Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Quadro fx 1700 here also, even with an empty scene it runs at about 4fps, looks nice, but unusably slow on my work system.. (thats with an 8core rig behind it) There doesn't seem to be a way to disable or edit the post processing effects, and if there was a way to build custom materials i didn't find it before running out of patience with the speed. I'll give it another go someday if we ever have an upgrade again heh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 It's that bad? Hmmm, that's a lot worse than I'd expect. Maybe it needs DirectX 11 hardware to run properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I was getting like 20 fps on my work machine so something seems up with Dave's machine. I am dl'ing it now for my home machine and we will see how it goes. i7-920 @ 3.4ghz GTX275 I am sure this will run smoother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yeah, I think that's a safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) I can't seem to start a new license period with the 2.2 trial. Has anyone had sucsess with it? I tried the Lumion 3d demo and pretty much fell in love with it. The navigation is great, the tools are good and intuitive and movie making is a breeze. I really can't compare it to any other program that I've used. But I feel that there a lot of room to expand and some features seem a bit limited. Also you must keep in mind that the only modeling stuff you can do in lumion is terrain modeling, so it's basically just an animation tool compared to twinmotion that is trying to be much more. But I rather model everything in max or sketchup and then just bring it in Lumion to render it. This is a presentation I made for my college assignment in Lumion. Setup while learning new tools - 5 hours, rendering 1 hour. Heck, could this ever been faster and easyer? I imagine that using a game engine for arch viz animation will soon on be the new way to go. Edited December 22, 2010 by Speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA-RA Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) Hello Speaker from Latvia, Twinmotion, Lumion3D are tools, they are here to help users and if they are good tools even better. On the contrary the new Twinmotion 2.2 trial allows a brand new trial period to everyone, even the users of previous trials. Edited December 21, 2010 by KA-RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I'm just gonna stop you guys right there - vendor-on-vendor flaming is not going to go over well on this board. If you see a post you feel treats your product unfairly, take it up with the moderators by sending a PM to the moderator in charge of the particular board or by using the "Report Post" button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 okay, to keep this very short: - I've deleted the advertisement by ka-ra. - @Speaker, since that post is deleted, could you alter/edit your post accordingly? - @ka-ra, since speaker is definatly not affiliated to Lumion, could you alter your post as well? - To both, edit your profile so it will show your real names, see forum rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 If you want to advertise/showcase your products please contact Jeff and set that up with him. Otherwise, just let the users talk about the products. I'm going to re-title this thread as well to make it not so vendor specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchrender Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 I have down loaded the Lumion demo, and have to say it is as easy as sketchtup for animation, set up camera and click set up next and so on. Very impressive 2 secs a frame, at HD. So I only have a one issue but thats me , I want to have blocks on a master plan appear and build up a site master plan for a flat site. But saying that all in looks good. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGavain Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi, I just done this rendering after viewing another interesting post about RT renderers and tested Twinmotion2 for this project. In a few minutes, I could change the ambiance of the project to show different ideas to my client, very intuitive, not as realistic as my usual Vray renderings but sufficient and convincing enough to make the right decisions quickly. But with time rendering less than one second per image, I confess that it is effective to work on project concepts. I also generated a Stand Alone and to visit the project, it's very interesting. [ATTACH=CONFIG]40666[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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