Jonathan Sanchez Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Hey Guys I'm upgrading my render farms.. am gonna buy 5 more nodes. Will go for desktop processors, don't have the budget for workstation/server systems. I was wondering which route should I take though: i7 870 quad cores with hyperthreading or AMD 1055t six core system? The i7s are about ~10 percent more expensive per node, but offer the advantage of hyperthreading so that there will be 8 buckets per system.... vs the 6 from the AMD. Is the difference worth it? What do you guys think? Edit: There's also the phenom II x6 1100t from amd's which are roughly the same price as the intel's.. now this is getting real complicated. I guess at the end of the day, the energy use is whats going to affect my decision. Edited January 9, 2011 by sancheuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It's a wash. The 870 is going to render about 10% faster than the 1055 and cost about 10% more. But edge to Intel on power efficiency. However, you might hold off, if you can, until you can get the new Sandy Bridge chips (should be soon). You should be able to get a Sandy Bridge system that costs roughly the same as the 870 but if measurably faster and with much better performance per watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 heh, its kinda funny how i keep seeing ppl with all the latest versions of Windows n 3dsmax, but then when it comes to Vray they all still got v1.5.. btw, did u just post Evermotion's copyrighted content there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The Evermotion's Archinterior files are not free , you must pay about 75 pounds for that file if you want to buy it , but sometimes we can find some links to download them , just for testing . We don't use them for private jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dammit. Now I'm going to have to do some things. Public service announcement: Downloading a content company's commercial content from a suspicious web site without purchase or permission from the rights owner is a violation of that company's copyright, regardless of what you go on to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Yep , I should be banned for these posts , but at least you should know that at stock clock , AMD 1055T still beat I7 870 with 3dsmax's rendering . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 so what? in order to win by a hair ur AMD CPU had to get 50% more Cores n require over 30% more power consumption.. thats kinda like sayin' ur car beat another car in a race cuz u beefed up ur engine n spent a truckload of money on jet fuel.. just to barely win.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Benchmarks are complicated. It's possible to have one CPU be faster in one test, and the other in another test. Both of these positions can be "correct". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 @F J: Ok , only for rendering ....the 1055T ~ I7 870 with 100$ cheaper (180$ vs 280$ in neweggs) , how long will you spent the 100$ to pay for your enegy bills ? . @AJLynn - That's realworld tests , not benchmark .Not only one file , so many similar tests gave us the same result . Ofcause with AMD system you much know how to control your system ( a little harder than Intel system) - But I think that if anyone have multi purpose suck as PTS , modelling , rendering .... he should by the new SB I7 2600 or SB I7 2600K ( if he know how to overclock) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sanchez Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) It's a wash. The 870 is going to render about 10% faster than the 1055 and cost about 10% more. But edge to Intel on power efficiency. However, you might hold off, if you can, until you can get the new Sandy Bridge chips (should be soon). You should be able to get a Sandy Bridge system that costs roughly the same as the 870 but if measurably faster and with much better performance per watt. Nice Andrew, I'd heard of the sandy bridge processors but never gave them much importance. It's great that they also bring gpu integrated so that I dont have to add video cards onto the nodes. Thanks for your hardware expertise!...what is the difference between the 2600 and the 2600k?.. I will be upgrading probably within 3 months... which >$300 cpu do you think would be the best value? Edited January 9, 2011 by sancheuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Actually, they just hit retail and I just put up a post on 3datstech.com. For your purposes, I'd go to the i7-2600K - about the same price as the 870 but more power for less energy. But instead of the motherboards I used in the configs (which are P67 boards, which do not use the onboard video) use an H67 board (which does support onboard video) like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 @F J: Ok , only for rendering ....the 1055T ~ I7 870 with 100$ cheaper (180$ vs 280$ in neweggs) , how long will you spent the 100$ to pay for your enegy bills ? . @ (sorry, i cant see ur name): not long.. it can be just a matter of only a few months, if u actually work with Rendering that is.. for each month that goes by, the AMD impacts almost 1/3rd on the energy bill over the Intel.. so with that in mind u can do ur math if u wanna find out how many months before the AMD actually starts to become more expensive than the Intel investment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 @ F J : We are talking about 1055T vs I7 870 default: -AMD 1055T : 125W fulload (as manufacture said) -Intel I7 870 : 95W fulload (as manufacture said) -With render farm , I can use a 800G/890G mainboard for AMD system and use the IGP HD 42**. (~ 6W max more than Intel P55 chipset) -With I7 870 , as least you must by a low profile discrete card which usually spent ~ 40 -65W (idle~ 15 - 25W) -Other hardware is similar . --->The AMD system ( In the worst case ) spent more than the Intel system ~ 20w . -In your country , how much does it cost for 1kwh ?? For example , you run your PC 12h/day , 6 days/week . --> 1 week the AMD system spent more than the Intel system 1.44 kwh , in my country with 100$ , i could spent 100$ for ~ 2200 weeks (each week 1.44 kwh) ~ over 40 years ~ rest of my life . , or 20 years if you render for 24/7 . Which is more expensive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F J Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 good job then.. by the time u grow a grey wig u will have saved up a hundra dolla i'd rather go nuts n spend another $45 on an i5 2500K (also with integrated graphics) which will beat the snot outta the AMD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Agree with you about the SB I5 2500K , or other I7 if I have to buy a new PC now , I will chose the SB CPUs ..... They are now the best. Smarter guys have smarter choices. //But please don't use Intel IGP for work or game ...Just in case you want to convert video... Edited January 10, 2011 by Superkames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's render nodes. GPUs don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sanchez Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Actually, they just hit retail and I just put up a post on 3datstech.com. For your purposes, I'd go to the i7-2600K - about the same price as the 870 but more power for less energy. But instead of the motherboards I used in the configs (which are P67 boards, which do not use the onboard video) use an H67 board (which does support onboard video) like this one. That's exactly what I was thinking.... I'm going to wait a 2 or 3 months, maybe there will be more motherboards available at the time. Thanks Andrew and everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkames Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Another realworld test . The same file and CPU is SB I7 2600K . --> For the rendering speed SB I7 2600K faster than AMD X6 1100T just about 10-15% . (remember that with AMD X6 1100T you must adjust the tranfer rate between CPU --- RAM = 5.2MT/s (CPU/NB frequency ~ 2600 mhz) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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