dande Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I often need to output my animation from premier pro. But I find the quality is not as good as what comes out of Max. I was just wondering what other formats people export as. Is there a better compression format out there I can use with Premiere pro then the standard mpeg and avi. I render out tiffs at 720 x 576 (Pal-D) from max. Then set my premiere pro project up in 720 x 576. Sometimes I may need to go to after effects. Then I link my after effects project into Premiere pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 uncompressed or animation codec for lossless? hs264 for compression, gives good results. try the inbuilt vimeo hd preset for small / passable results 720 x 576 is a pretty small in these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks Nic. I don't have hs264 or vimeo. I'm still using CS3. I'm using 720 x 576 for speed reasons. If I go higher on animations it extends the rendering time too much, Just out of interest what resolution are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 [ATTACH=CONFIG]40788[/ATTACH] do you not have any presets available in CS3? Im on CS5 and have these - surely there must be something similiar in CS3? these are the kind of presets i use for web or draft delivery - final versions will generally be high quality HS264 generally render at 720p 1280x 720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dande Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 I just had a look and I see it has a HDV 720p. I think I'll do some testing with that. What format do you export to that gives you reasonable file sizes. Sorry about all the questions Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Nic we still use Power Point which won't work with the hs264 codec so I have to export everything as a WMV. I just got CS5 and I can't get anything descent out of Premiere, do you have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I render to WMV out of Premiere CS4 with some frequency because of the PowerPoint issue. Typically I use something like the settings in my attachment for clean result son the compression. These settings could be tweaked more, but they have worked, so I haven't looked into further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Travis is there any reason why your using version 7 and not 9? I'll try your settings tomorrow and see how it looks thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Travis is there any reason why your using version 7 and not 9? I'll try your settings tomorrow and see how it looks thanks. I can't remember but I think it had to do with compatibility. I wrote to v9 a few times but would get phone calls from people saying that they could not get it to play. So rather than going through, or explaining the process of having them check to make sure they had the latest version and all of the latest codecs, it was easier to just save it as v7, and send them on their merry way. I don't know the quality difference between v7 and v9, but I see little to no breakdown with v7, and my file size for a 2 minute animation typically hovers around 100-110mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm giving up on CS5 I can't believe I paid money for this upgrade, apparently I can't even use the GPU Mercury Playback engine with my video card (Quadro 6000) because it's not supported. Add to that the fact that playback is all but impossible and if I want any help I have to pay $40 and hour to Adobe to listen to someone in India who I can't understand read instructions off a monitor!!!!!! Anyone got any suggestions for another video editing package, I'm sick of this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Without sounding like an arse, is it possible to switch back to CS3? ...while I enjoy many of the newer features, I still feel that CS3 was a faster and more responsive product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ha..that's exactly what I did Travis I just hate spending money on something that just doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I had this problem a while back and was advised to use a 3rd part compression program. i now export from premiere as uncompressed quicktime and then into canopus procoder which gives me all the different formats I need i think my old thread was called HD Animation Workflow but it went off the trail of HD animation and we ended up discussing compression, search for it, it has some good content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm giving up on CS5 I can't believe I paid money for this upgrade, apparently I can't even use the GPU Mercury Playback engine with my video card (Quadro 6000) because it's not supported. Add to that the fact that playback is all but impossible and if I want any help I have to pay $40 and hour to Adobe to listen to someone in India who I can't understand read instructions off a monitor!!!!!! Anyone got any suggestions for another video editing package, I'm sick of this crap. This ought to help you. http://blog.krama.tv/hacking-adobe-premiere-cs5-to-enable-more-nvidia-cuda-cards/ I actually did this a few weeks ago with a Tesla card and it worked a charm. Only catch is that your card must have at least 1GB of RAM, which the 6000 obviously does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Nic we still use Power Point which won't work with the hs264 codec so I have to export everything as a WMV. I just got CS5 and I can't get anything descent out of Premiere, do you have any suggestions? Maxer, I have been encoding WMV files over the past few days, and it reminded me of this thread. Before I started using Adbe Media Encoder to write WMV format I used Windows Media Encoder, which seemed to have more options for WMV than the Adobe Encoder. Microsoft has discontinued Media Encoder in favor of Microsoft Expression. Which is their new encoder toy. It has the features of Windows Media Encoder plus a few other things. Anyway, when using Expression I write to a uncompressed AVI, and then import that file into Expression, and simply use the VBR Quality Mode. I leave the settings the same with the exception of ticking match source files resolution. After I hit encode the process of compressing the video is fast. Maybe 3 minutes for a 5gb (1 minute 20 second) uncompressed AVI. The quality is clean with the default settings, but could probably be improved more if you increase the VBR Quality Mode form its default of 95. The free version is all you need to encode. http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/EncoderPro_Overview.aspx Edited March 2, 2011 by Crazy Homeless Guy At one point called it Impression instead of Expression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooch Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Great tip to have. Hate WMVs but we do occasionally have to use it. Maxer, I have been encoding WMV files over the past few days, and it reminded me of this thread. Before I started using Adbe Media Encoder to write WMV format I used Windows Media Encoder, which seemed to have more options for WMV than the Adobe Encoder. Microsoft has discontinued Media Encoder in favor of Microsoft Impression. Which is their new encoder toy. It has the features of Windows Media Encoder plus a few other things. Anyway, when using Expression I write to a uncompressed AVI, and then import that file into Expression, and simply use the VBR Quality Mode. I leave the settings the same with the exception of ticking match source files resolution. After I hit encode the process of compressing the video is fast. Maybe 3 minutes for a 5gb (1 minute 20 second) uncompressed AVI. The quality is clean with the default settings, but could probably be improved more if you increase the VBR Quality Mode form its default of 95. The free version is all you need to encode. http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/EncoderPro_Overview.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Thanks Travis that helps a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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