Adding Traditional Illustration to CGA

[Jeff Mottle]

Hi all,

 

While CGarchitect obviously started to feature CG work in architecture, I've been thinking for a while to try to be more inclusive of traditional architectural illustration as well. I think there is so much that can be learned from other forms of media. Based on the email and feedback received in the last Visualization Pro of the Week, I think it would be a welcome addition, but wanted to see what everyone else thought

 

http://forums.cgarchitect.com/64294-tomasz-rynek-architekci-february-25-2011-a.html

[eagle_ear]

Sounds like a good idea, there is this http://forums.cgarchitect.com/35-traditional-artwork/ but seems to be kind of dead.

Over at SAI forums they have a separate forum for each type of commonly used technique, marker , watercolor...

Although most of the members on cga probably don't get there hands dirty much anymore, I think everyone likes to

see old school work. The old techniques influence cg, and it is possible now

for the cg to influence hand drawn work somehow, then there is hybrid illustration.

Could even be a forum for NPR work. I bet you will get more feedback on this, and

it could be good.

[padre.ayuso]

I agree with both, I think it would be great to get the traditional stuff included, but not so much as a separate forum at the bottom of the page, cause I can tell you I won't look at it as often. I for example mainly see this forum, WIP, Arch Viz Forum and Pro of the Week (every now and again I checked the others), but even people post their 3 max and Vray problems in the General Discussion forums now-a-days... Anyhow, that's my 10cents. Perhaps, in the Visualization Gallery, having its own thread or something, maybe that works.

[John Dollus]

As William mentioned, the traditional artwork area has very little to no activity and the internation society of arch illustrators area is also quite dead even with a direct link from the traditional illustration website homepage. on the linkedin arch rendering group, the traditional illustrators voted to actually create a subforum of only traditional illustration so it really appears that the traditional illustrators are not very interested in bringing areas together. I don't understand it myself but sure seems that way.

[Jeff Mottle]

As William mentioned, the traditional artwork area has very little to no activity and the internation society of arch illustrators area is also quite dead even with a direct link from the traditional illustration website homepage. on the linkedin arch rendering group, the traditional illustrators voted to actually create a subforum of only traditional illustration so it really appears that the traditional illustrators are not very interested in bringing areas together. I don't understand it myself but sure seems that way.

 

 

I was hoping to try to work some activities to try to encourage more traditional work on the site. Perhaps we could get a lot of the digital people who also have traditional skills to post. I'm all too aware that trying to get the old guard traditional artists involved is futile. I do agree how unfortunate that is though. We've had this discussion a few times though you and I.

[John Dollus]

Yup, true enough. tough nut to crack. I'm still a big proponent of the idea. There are more than a few notable artists here who have built bridges between the two so enlisting some support there would be great

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

I would love to gain more knowledge of traditional techniques.

 

Maybe an introductory competition will help? I don't know what the giveaway would be for the winner, but it may help promote it. I know how easy it is for you to organize the competitions.

[Brian Smith]

I would definitely like to see this.

[M V]

It would also be great to have a section devoted to 'tradigital' work for those trying to find balance between the two worlds. I know Ernest Burden would agree.

[Sketchrender]

Absolutely .

I have been trying for years to get into it.

A section would get me moving I think.

Great idea.

 

Phil

[Iain Denby]

Always welcome this. I have history on both sides of the fence and am actively involved with the SAI, so I see a lot of traditional work and know personally the artists creating it.

 

The problem is that the majority of artists who create this work have always done so and are now between 40 and 75 years old, and most have little interest in joining the digital age, so they're never going to see message threads like this -(I made the switch around 12 years ago when I was 38, but the older you get the less you're inclined to embrace change). Even on our own SAI Forums, we struggle to get members involved...many don't even have email !

 

But the one thing that traditional techniques has over digital is such a rich variety of styles, from loose to tight.

 

Much to learn.

[Iain Denby]

...one thing that's always intregued me is that despite a few exeptions, for the traditional architectural artists, realism, or photorealism was never really aspirational, or expected from clients (even though it's much harder to acheive with traditional techniques). Indeed, what inspired me when I looked at this kind of work when I was starting out was style and technique. The best artisits had both.

 

Marker renderings of concept cars in the 80s ignited my interest in the illustration field, and even now this style still excites me more than computer based photoreal renders.

[DorothyHick]

Good to hear things out....

[Andy Hickes]

I've done both. Since there is interest I'll post some to the gallery.

[Aaron2004]

I'm going to run the risk of sounding ignorant here...but while I love the idea of catering to traditional techniques, there are currently WAY to many categories here. Can we think about combining some forums together before we add any more?

 

I don't have time to click through each category, even though there may be things in the 'VIZ' or 'Photoshop' section that I may be able to answer or find interesting, but I never go to them. I'd rather just combine 'work in progress' with 'finished work' while having an understanding that you can post traditional forms or rendering in it. If there are A LOT of these, then break them off into their own category.

 

My own two cents...and for all I know, there may be a way to view everything at once that I don't know about.

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

I'm going to run the risk of sounding ignorant here...but while I love the idea of catering to traditional techniques, there are currently WAY to many categories here. Can we think about combining some forums together before we add any more?

 

I don't have time to click through each category, even though there may be things in the 'VIZ' or 'Photoshop' section that I may be able to answer or find interesting, but I never go to them. I'd rather just combine 'work in progress' with 'finished work' while having an understanding that you can post traditional forms or rendering in it. If there are A LOT of these, then break them off into their own category.

 

My own two cents...and for all I know, there may be a way to view everything at once that I don't know about.

 

As a side note, I typically only browse the forums by linking directly to the most recent posts. This way I see everything new regardless of the forum it is in without actually needing to click through each forum.

 

You can simply book mark this, and then click on it whenever you want to see what is new.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/search.php?do=getdaily

[Aaron2004]

Good to know...thanks! I guess it's not that big of a deal to me now...but at least keep the original request in mind.