Best recommended Graphic card

[aristocratic3d]

Hi,

Well, I am in serious need of your help this time. I have seen some graphic card from Quadro. that offer a price I can buy a core i7 even some time 4 core i7 processor.

 

I am a poor Bangladeshi guy. and its a dream for me to buy a card with $4000.

So please let me know answers to the following questions-

 

1. why should I buy a graphic card with $4000 instead of 4 core i7 processors?

2. it says quadro 4000 has a 89.6GB/s memory bandwidth. what this memory bandwidth.

(I am ashamed of asking questions. as I know some of these may be very basic and I should have known this.)

3. Its says that my memory bandwidth is 11.7GB/s. So if I render a scene in 10 min with this----

 

 

 

So how long a Quadro 4000 will take

how long a Quadro 2000 will take

And how long a Quadro 600 will take?

 

4. What if I buy from others instead of NVIDA? will it be cheaper and effective?

 

5. I have scope and place to keep 5 computers. So what should I do? wont it be faster if I buy several pc? instead of a single high end graphic card?

 

Waiting for you suggestions.

 

Thanks a million in advance.

A

 

PS: my mother board is intel dx58so

Edited November 5, 2011 by aristocratic3d
missing mother board name

[David Arbogast]

I've been pondering a new graphics card too. I want great performance, but just can't see spending $4000 for it. So, I'm planning to get a relatively inexpensive Nvidia GTX 580 (3gb). For a long time now, I've had "professional" Quadros in my work PCs and "gamer" cards in my home PC, and I've never been able to tell any difference in 3ds Max. I feel a GTX 580 will perform as well as a Quadro 4000. Supposedly, the GTX cards might wear out quicker, but you can buy several 580s for the price of one 4000. And if/when the 580 burns out, you can just upgrade to the latest gamer card from Nvidia.

 

If you really want a Quadro, then you should seriously wait a few months. The current Quadros are based on Nvidia's "fermi" architecture, but the next cards from Nvidia will be based on their next generation "Kepler" cards, which promise to be significantly more powerful and energy-efficient than fermi cards. The Kepler-based cards were due out already, but Nvidia's having some manufacturing difficulties, so the release date will likely be early 2012; not too many weeks from now.

[RyderSK]

David's suggestion for 580gtx with highest ram version (3GB) is best. Never ever had the quadro line lesser meaning and use than today. You won't get a slightest higher viewport navigation in Max 2012.

Unless you want to go for GPU rendering, in which case you would still get 580gtx, unless you had money for (already outdated) Tesla models with 6GB ram.

 

GTX and Quadro have the same architecture, and same bandwith, so this shoudn't concern you.

 

Buy a single i7 2600k or wait for upcoming Ivy Bridge, single GTX 580 with 3GB ram and save your money, you won't need anything else, ever...

[Tommy L]

Abdullah,

Your graphics card has nothing to do with render times (unless you are using a Real time renderer such as VRay RT or IRay). Your processor is the only thing that matters. RAM will only come into play if you dont have enough, you have 12g so you should be fine.

Graphics card will improve your viewport performance only. Dont buy a $4k graphics card. If you need to improve render times then buying i7 2600k based machine(s) is currently the best way of doing that, then you can either use Distributed rendering or send out frames to render on your new machine via Backburner.

[aristocratic3d]

hi,

Thanks for your feedback guys!

I saw some forum posting here and there. I got this impression....

 

1. people are confused whether they will choose AMD bulldozer or this IVY bridge. none of them are in the market yet.

2. any Idea on how much would be the price for those?

3. quadro is custom build for 3D applications (they says). whats your opinion?

4. a Quadro 4000 can handle 890million triangle per sec. what can GTX 580 do?

5. I had a question that, a scene my current PC (I have included the pc config in my post) takes 10 min. what it can doo if I buy a quadro 4000/ GTX 580. I meant will it render in 5 min or less time?

6. I will need a new pc and will buy it when new gen processors are released. I cant leave my current pc with this poor graphic card. I would not buy this card if I had an idea. I am even confused if my current processor can use my 12GB RAM.

7. I have 3 HDD in my pc. power supplier is 700W. so will this supplier work if I buy a quadro 4000/ GTX 580?

 

And again thanks for the time guys! you are very friendly.

Edited November 6, 2011 by aristocratic3d

[aristocratic3d]

Hi mate I have just noticed that you have already commented on the thread. thanks for your time.

I cant dream $4k card. I was wondering what they do with that card? I had to work on a scene that have 12 million polygon in it. i had problems on view port navigation. SO if I can play with 890million polygon per sec. with a quadro 4000. that is $800. that would be better and I can work very fast in that case.

 

I did not know that I am not benefiting from render time with graphic card. thanks for the info. I may need to work on some GPU based engine.

 

So do you also recommend me to buy GTX 580?

and obviously I will buy another pc. but thats different case. I will need it. so most likely I will buy two GTX580 in a shorter period of time.

 

I planned to request you for a suggestion as you have studio and experience. but I just noticed you have already helped me.

Thanks for the participation in the thread.

 

Abdullah,

Your graphics card has nothing to do with render times (unless you are using a Real time renderer such as VRay RT or IRay). Your processor is the only thing that matters. RAM will only come into play if you dont have enough, you have 12g so you should be fine.

Graphics card will improve your view port performance only. Dont buy a $4k graphics card. If you need to improve render times then buying i7 2600k based machine(s) is currently the best way of doing that, then you can either use Distributed rendering or send out frames to render on your new machine via Back burner.

[AJLynn]

Do you use a renderer that uses the GOU? Such as iray, Vray RT for GPU, Arion, or Octane? If you use regular Vray, mental ray, Maxwell, Fry, etc., a more expensive graphics card has no effect at all on render times because those programs run on the CPU (the i7, AMD Bulldozer, Ivy Bridge, etc. chip) and NOT the GPU (the Radeon, Geforce or Quadro).

 

If you want GPU power to run one of those renderers that use it, get the 3GB Geforce 580. (Not the 590. The 580.) If not, and you want to upgrade your computer for render speed, sit tight a couple weeks. There will soon be a new set of motherboard and CPUs out, for example a new generation Intel 6-core for $600 that will render much faster than what you have now. If you are not running a GPU renderer, a faster video card will have the effect of speeding up the viewport display in Max as you move objects or move the camera around, and it will run games faster, and that's all.

[branskyj]

What AJLynn said.

As for those people wondering which CPU to get (the Bulldozer or the Ivy Bridge), well visit the AnandTech website and check their CPU comparison. It's visible how inferior the current iteration of Bulldozer CPUs are to Sandy Bridge, let alone the upcomming Ivy Bridge. I was really hoping for good news from AMD but...oh well.