Graphite Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hey all; Been a while. Need a bit of advice. I interviewed for a position doing design and 3dwork, the owner wanted to see my skill set on one of his projects, so I rendered out an image (that allowed him to see some issues with the design). He wasn't happy with the image, because the design was garbage (I did NOT do the design work, simply the rendering.) So; now he wants me to do ANOTHER rendering, only this time utilizing MY design skill. My question is; Should I charge him for the design/render time, even though in the grander scheme of things, I would rather have the job.... Keep in mind he's sending me changes to the design as if It were a contract job. -regards. n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 You, sir, are being swindled. I'd do one of three courses of action. 1). Walk away from this and never look back. This already sounds like a poor place to work and a meddling boss. They are not looking at your skills, but you ability to sheepishly follow whatever turd they roll your way. 2). Charge him, render it out, then walk away forever. 3). Don't charge him, render out a thumbnail size image so he can't use a freebie. Then, walk away from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 its a scam imo. he is taking you for a ride. no serious business or studio would do this - its well outside the bounds of a 'test' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Name and shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Norfolk Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I also interviewed for a viz job, as part of the hiring process they gave me a project and a timeframe and a small compensation (about 1/4 of the normal rate). I was told this is standard industry paractice as it is very difficult to gauge an applicant's skill by just looking at their portfolio. I thought I did a good job but maybe somebody was better (I was not hired). In this climate, Employers are also very cautious and wants to hire the right person. Kindly tell him that you have given him enough of your free time and If you want to continue further he needs to hire you. Tha fact that he's proactive is a sign he's leaning on hiring you. but then again, do you really like to work with this kind of employer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graphite Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share Posted July 20, 2012 UPDATE: So, it seems all of you were a bit correct. Dan; you indeed were spot on, but at one point he did try to swindle the work for free. I ended up charging him about 1/3 of my normal rate, and lost a couple hours at that. Needless to say I did get paid, but the full time opportunity he initially interviewed me for was really not there. It seems he's posting job listings and trying to get images done at little to no cost. Just an FYI; if anyone does any work for Distinctive Homes, in Las Vegas.. Set your cost upfront, regardless of what might be offered "in the long term". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanbhargava Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Nolan, setting costs upfront is almost always the best course of action IMO, no matter who the client is. Almost always, new clients will offer a lot more "in the long run" and ask you to do an initial project at a cheaper rate - DON'T FALL FOR IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Epic rant. Pay the Writer (in this case the visualization specialist). The only value for me, is if you put money in my hand. [video=youtube;mj5IV23g-fE]\http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manish_mv Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think Its best if you can watermark your image and present a low-res image to the client or the employer. That would solve your and his purpose. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passionatajaloszynska Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 People can be really heartless. I have no words. Manish kumar hits the nail. Watermerk is good idea to resolve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M V Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is the new normal we have to deal with. We have overseas companies charging peanuts, college grads with no work desperate to make rent money, and the mentality that we are 'a dime a dozen'. We are up against tremendous odds sometimes. Especially the newbies to the field. Don't sell your pride and dignity. Clients need to realize that we need to make a living. Just because its 3D and on a computer doesn't mean we are not spending 60+hours on a project modeling and texturing. Would they work a full week for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewspencer Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hadn't seen that video, Scott. Excellent link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmaknev Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Render it and put a huge watermark on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiliaduan1 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 3). Don't charge him, render out a thumbnail size image so he can't use a freebie. Then, walk away from this. Supported for this advice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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