numerobis Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice pile of excellent hardware I agree that the corsair H100 is not the best choice, that is why i suggested a dual 140mm radiator. I think below that you can just use a notua like you said - or a Thermalright Silver Arrow or True Spirit or something similar. Seasonic, nothing to add, can be seen from picture, I never bought different brand. Me too... For the mainboard i have to say that i have an ASUS P9X79 WS in my workstation and ASRock in all of my nodes. They work fine and i think today ASRock boards are better overclocker for the same money and they start at maybe 20-30% lower prices - for a render node this is enough for me. I think i would also buy a GTX760 at the moment (and maybe will do - i just have to clarify if there is a water cooler for the 4GB version) because of the much higher power consumption of the GTX770. Or i will wait til Feb-March to see if nvidia's Maxwell gets released... Btw. I will also order a 4930K this week... or another 3930K - i'm not sure which one will perform better (overclocked). But i think i'll try the 4930K. I keep them identically clocked at 4.2GHz for good feeling and silent mode. How is the voltage and heat compared to your 3930K's? I fear to hit a wall at 4,2-4,3GHz but i would like to get at least 4,5-4,6GHz to get the performance of my 3930Ks@4,7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) It's 1.35V at 4.2Ghz from head I think. I think it's fine to go much lower but for sake of good feeling I keep it here (and the fact that I did not get it long-time stable like the folks on forums at something really low and nice ike 1.25-1.3, but also I didn't care further and haven't done any uefi updates since). I don't watch temperatures much, but it's just few degrees higher than Sandy at much lower power consumpition, so by almost everything I've read, you won't be able to overclock most pieces to 4.6Ghz without stability problem. It's just not such a good overclocker. You will get slightly (just slightly slightly) better performance with 4930k at same clock, so this somehow offsets it. And...happier smile when electricity bill comes :- ) I don't think Asrock are bad by any means, I think it's hard to even buy bad motherboard these days, esp. at high-end platfrom like LG2011. But for the same amount of money, the Asrock is quite more "gamery" in mind than the Asus P9X79/WS/Pro/Deluxe with slightly unusable features for work at slightly worse build quality at same/close price level. 760/770 is actually a tough choice with the recent discounts for 770. But I don't really need the 770/780/+ performance for what I do, and 760 is very decently cheap with 4GB option. It's much better buy than last year 660/670. Could still be better/cheaper though.. Edit:Nope, wrong number Edited December 12, 2013 by RyderSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Looks like Christmas came early Juraj, haha. Lots of options to think about then while I get the money together, thanks. The Fractal cases do look very nice, good call. Just fully appreciating the size of that Noctua now. Wow that's a big beast! Would like to see a photo of your build once it's complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It's already built so I can take a snapshot. Yes, the Noctua is gigantic even in large case like this, but it's also very silent. The only downfall I can think of it can really bend the motheboard on rough transport (which is not easy by any chance itself, because the whole setup is around 24KG). I agree deciding on what to buy can be a lot to go through because the options are now so broad, and it's not really about making good/bad anymore just really picking the best for certain criteria in every category for the money spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It's 1.35V at 4.2Ghz from head I think. Ok, thanks. CPU-Z under load? My 3930Ks need 1.37v for 4.6-4.7 so by almost everything I've read, you won't be able to overclock most pieces to 4.6Ghz without stability problem. It's just not such a good overclocker. You will get slightly (just slightly slightly) better performance with 4930k at same clock, so this somehow offsets it. I know, this is why i was asking... the perfomance gain should be 3-4% for rendering at the same clockspeed. And the scaling with faster RAM seems to be a bit better. Someone at the Asus ROG forum tested 45 4930K at 1,4v under water (i think i wouldn't go higher than 1,375v for 24/7, but maybe that's just me) and here is the result: 2% of CPUs will do 4.8GHz at 1.40V. 20% will do 4.7GHz. 48% will do 4.6GHz at 1.40V. 28% will do 4.5GHz at 1.40V. 2% will do only 4.4GHz at 1.40V. So from these values it doesn't look too bad - 4,5-4,6GHz should be possible with my MoRa. I think i will try it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 So gave up on the Ivy Xeon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 yes... i can't find any information regarding more than 105-106 MHz BCLK and i think the results posted with 112MHz BCLK are far from stable - i don't know. But i think if it would be really possible we would have seen more results within the last months. So i will wait now for Haswell-E next year to get more than 6 cores - this will be 2 years without performance gain for my workstation then. Hopefully Intel will give us back strap/bclk overclocking for xeons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Pretty much decided on components. Now the torturous wait for an upcoming job to get the go-ahead to fund/justify the build! Mobo: X79 Deluxe, was initially looking at the X79 Sabretooth for toughness and 5 year warranty but those little fans could be annoying. CPU: Core i7 4930k Ram: Corsair Vengeance low profile 32Gb quad channel kit (4x8Gb) Cooling: Just waiting on the new Dark Rock Pro 3 from BeQuiet coming out, seems good and quiet and like the aesthetics of it. GPU: Gainward Phantom 770 4Gb Case: Fractal Design Define R4, tempted to forego the side window in favour of mounting a side fan for better cooling after reading this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/02/10/the-big-cooling-investigation/1 PSU: Seasonic X-Series 750W 80+ Gold HDD1: Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb HDD2: WD Caviar Green 3Tb I've set up a price tracker using http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/ to keep an eye on fluctuating prices and hopefully not overspend and grab a few bargains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) In the meantime my current graphics card has died (BFG Tech 8800GTS 320Mb). Nothing like picking up a replacement for £10 on ebay for a £200 card to let you know it's upgrade time! Edited January 9, 2014 by stef.thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I feel your pain on the "old tech", but remember, your 8800 GTS is no longer a £200. 8800 GTX 768MB sell for $40. And I don't think its a good buy... C'est la vie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Speaking of bargains... Corsair has 1-day offer on now if you buy direct from them. Enter code CESREDITT at checkout for 25% discount http://www.corsair.com/en/ Edited January 9, 2014 by stef.thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Damn, was very excited there till I realised they don't add VAT on till the very end! Still not a bad saving, but think I'll hold off for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I've set up a price tracker using http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/ to keep an eye on fluctuating prices and hopefully not overspend and grab a few bargains. I'm not sure what you're waiting for with your price tracker, but you can search for the best prices in UK at http://www.skinflint.co.uk. You can configure a wishlist and search for the best package price. But maybe you already know this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yes, will check that too. It just gives you a graph showing prices for that item over last year (on Amazon) and alerts you when it's a good time to buy. But will definitely shop around before making a purchase too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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