branskyj Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hi all, First of all- I have NO experience with 4K PC monitors but with the recently announced models of 4K monitors from Dell and also Asus's 4K one... can somebody please explain to me what would it be like working in 3DS Max or Photoshop on a 24" or 28" 4K monitor? Would the menus inside the program be easily readable or I will have to change DPIs in Windows (I am on Windows 7 btw). Right now I am working on a 27" 2560x1440. If I were to switch to 28" 3840x2160 monitor would everything be about 2 times smaller? I am not interested in playing games , just productivity work. Is anybody working on a 4K monitor? Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Read the news as well today and now I want to buy that 28" too :- ) Will do exactly the same upgrade, U2713HM to U28XXXX. I still remember Dell promising to bring the 32" under 2000 dollars just few months ago and voila, it costs even more than the Asus.. I know it's not the same, but we have retina macpro 15, and it was unusable with Windows (that's the only system we use on Macs with Veronika :- D ) before the 8.1 update. Now it scales perfectly. Should also receive Dell XPS15 with 3200px by christmass, both of these laptops have much higher PPI than than will the 24" 4k Dell have, and it's just fine for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I think it's too early to buy one, there will be great improvements within the next months concerning price and panel quality. Dell already announced a 28" for $1000, to be available in early 2014 (P2815Q). http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/uscorp1/secure/2013-12-2-dell-ultrasharp-ultra-hd-monitors I'm on a 27" 2560x1440 NEC at the moment and waiting to make the switch to 4k. But i think i'll wait at least until mid 2014 and hope to see some calibrateable 32" display for less than 2000€... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branskyj Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I too am eyeballing the 28" 4K Dell. So, you are saying under Windows 8.1 (when scaled) it all looks readable. But doesn't scaling also reduce the amount of data you can fit on the screen? In other words- once I change the DPI in Windows 8.1 so that icons and text become readable wouldn't that also change the size of windows and applications accordingly? Or DPI doesn't work like that. I have never had to tinkle with DPI before hence my question. Thanks for the input, Juraj and numerobis. Juraj- I wish you triple 4K setup, mate. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yes it does change the whole workspace, but that's the point mostly. I don't think you want to see things even smaller then they are. But you can choose happy medium in-between, scale just so much that you can read things clearly. The sharpness and clarity will be amazing, can't even image how looking at 4k render will look at native resolution. Regarding 3 monitor setup, thanks :- D Though I think even 2 monitors at this width might be too much. Maybe 28" + some vertically pivoted 21" would be just fine. Or who knows, maybe the matrix like setup does boost workflow, if I don't end up blind in week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 A friend of mine just bought one of these: http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27EA83 I have to say, the colour specs sound amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) If the OS is having a proper scaling integration, it scales mostly fontbased menus etc. perfect. The "content" (i.e. the workspace/model/image) and bitmap based UI (i.e. the buttons of olderversions of Photoshop or ACAD) remains at full resolution. That means it could be toosmall for you in a monitor with very fine DPI (as most of those 4K desktopmonitors will have, tho 24" to 27~28" does change things when the res is constant). Newer versions of Adobe programs, triggered by the 2x scaling laptops (rMBPand equiv. Win 15" PCs) do offer scalable UI that looks great. Some other apps, like sketchup, might have a simpler work-around, like switching to "large buttons" or a similar option that makes things easier to hunt down with your cursor in large resolutions. Of course windows 8.1 is very important. Win 7 and 8.0 are not that great inscaling (anything but fonts ofc). I don't know how Autodesk and the such will fare tho. Depends on thesoftware UI ofc (if you are using autocad in classic interface is tough, butperhaps the newer Ribbon based interfaces in 2014/2015 versions will do ok?Time will show. Edited December 4, 2013 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I am thinking about buying one next year, if anybody has good experiences, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 With the 4Ks being a bit out of reach for most ppl, maybe this rumored 21:9 3440x1440 Dell will cut it... Sure, it is not 4K, and it might be overkill-wide for anything but single monitor setups, but...interesting nontheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkutacar Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 my cousin recently got a 32" dell 4k and things r barely readable, u gotta get very close to the screen. im using a 42" lg 4k uhdtv. its almost the same as using a 30" monitor @ 2560x1600. quite easy to read and u get large viewports. 28" will be way too small for 4k resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 sorry, but i think it doesn't make much sense to post an image in 1736x976 to show the readability on a 4K display. btw. the NEC PA322UHD has now been announced for november: $2999 http://www.necdisplay.com/p/pa322uhd-bk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 btw. the NEC PA322UHD has now been announced for november: $2999 http://www.necdisplay.com/p/pa322uhd-bk At first glance looks identical to the Dell spec-wise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkutacar Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 i posted original size, the site automatically resized it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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