Dimitris Tolios Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Looks good. Did you buy them already? 840 EVOs are on a "sellout" spree here in the US...don't know if they are getting rid of stock for a 850 line, or simply lowered their production costs so far down, but 500GB EVOs sell for less than $270, even $260. With the 840 Pro 256 still around $210, seems a waste not to get the 500 (TLC or not). Got my 500 EVO for $290 @ Xmas and I don't regret it. Now the 750 starts pushing close to this price Edited March 11, 2014 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkahk Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Well things always get cheaper :-) Once ordered - already old... Everything is ordered already. 256GB will be fine. But thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Well things always get cheaper :-) DDR3 pricing disagrees with that generally true rule. Once ordered - already old... Everything is ordered already. 256GB will be fine. But thanks again! I don't know how your local market reacts to the "SSD stock market"...the US market is serving less ppl, tho appears to be far bigger and less segregated than the EU market which technically splits between different countries, as local dealers don't try to be competitive EU-wide. At least the local Greek market was horrid while I was still there, and that's before PIGS time... Well, the build should be great anyways. Putting it together is not that hard...just be careful with the CPU and RAM - line them up with the grooves / slots before pushing in and virtually nothing can go wrong...oh, and put the cooler on before you mount the mobo in the case ofc! enjoy =) Edited March 11, 2014 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hi all, One question: Grischa is buying a workstation to be used mostly with Rhino for modelling, vray4c4d. Would you say this configuration works for 3Ds max as well? Both modeling and rendering (vray). Many thanks to Dimitris and Juraj, and the rest. Guido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes, it is "safe" to assume that a decent Rhino 3D workstation will do fine in 3DS and vice versa.3DS is Direct3D based, thus is doing better with gaming cards than Rhino 3D and Cinema 4D that are both OpenGL, but both the latter will run fine with a Radeon R9 280 or equivalent GTX (760 or better). The new 750Ti, the 1st card with the new Maxwell architecture from nVidia is also very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Got you. Thank you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I just noticed that the 750ti isn't SLI ready. Isn't that a major disadvantage for future upgrades to the workstation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I just noticed that the 750ti isn't SLI ready. Isn't that a major disadvantage for future upgrades to the workstation? Zero disadvantage? Most 3D CAD/DCC apps don't care about SLI or Crossfire X. The 750Ti is artificially crippled out of SLI, as it would undercut much more expensive cards. Two of them, in SLI, under 75W each with 2GB of VRam would offer pretty good performance - but that's for gaming. 3DS and the such disregard SLI and work with the primary card only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 sorry if this was discussed before but I couldn't find any threads by searching "SLI" :S I'm still confused about this because in wikipedia it says: "SLI allows two, three, or four graphics processing units (GPUs) to share the workload when rendering real-time 3D computer graphics. Ideally, identical GPUs are installed on the motherboard that contains enough PCI-Express slots, set up in a master-slave configuration. All graphics cards are given an equal workload to render, but the final output of each card is sent to the master card via a connector called the SLI Bridge. An example, in a two graphics card setup, the master works on the top half of the scene, the slave the bottom half. Once the slave is done, it sends its render to the master to combine into one image before sending it to the monitor." What you are saying is that vray rt uses dual cards but not an SLI bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Actually, I just found this: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=23&t=965429&page=1&pp=15 But it was written in 2011, so it may be dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 SLI is spitting work between cards so that each is rendering a different lines in the same frame, or each is rendering alternating frames etc. This requires drivers and viewport (or gaming) graphics engine to be aware of each-other and collaborate. 3DS, Maya etc don't collaborate with GeForce drivers in SLI, haven't so far been developed to do so. AMD's Crossfire Pro supposingly does, but nVidia did not try to develop this compatibility with its gaming cards so far. The SLI bridge was developed to provide extra bandwidth between the cards, so that those could exchange common assets without flooding the PCIe lanes. With PCIe 3.0 being vastly faster than what PCIe 1.0 was, perhaps an SLI bridge is no longer required for proper operation and AMD doesn't require it for Hybrid Crossfire X. Vray RT GPU and other GPU accelerated renderers communicate with each GPU directly using CUDA or OpenGL, so SLI and other "tricks" don't apply. There is even little need for full PCIe 16x bandwidth, PCIe 1x and power is all the card needs, as it "does its thing" without the need for back-and-forth input from the CPU, as it is rendering a "fixed" frame (even if it is rendering a frame in an animation sequence, it is pretty much a pre-determined frame), and doesn't need to be informed of moving geometries or time-bound materials and lighting. We said it again and again: VRay RT GPU is completely separate and independent of VRay Adv., the regular CPU rendering engine most people use. GPUs have no effect in the performance of the latter. It doesn't even care if you have a GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ok, got it. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 So I got this configuration and I wanted to leave my feedback for others.... It's mostly what Grischa ended up with, after all your suggestions. Mobo: asus p9x79 LE CPU: i7 4930k Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3-1866 16GB GPU: Gigabyte gtx 760 (GV-N760oc-4gd Rev. 2) PSU: Seasonic x series 650W SSD: Samsung 840 Pro series 256 GB HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB Case Fractal Define XL R2 Black pearl DVD: LG gh24nsb0 DVD-RW Windows 7 pro OEM Some comments: 1-I bought at newegg.com with some problems. After calling a couple of times I finally got everything shipped. 2-The Noctua was really hard to install. It has springs on the screws. So I had to put a lot of pressure to screw it in, to the point that I didn't know if I was going to break the cpu or motherboard. At first I thought it was faulty. Also, it's HUGE! 3-The case is awesome but very big. I'm not sure if I would have been ok with something smaller. Other than that, everything went really well. Thank you guys very much for your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 You would, the benefit of XL R2 vs regular R4 is accomodation of mainboard form factor. You didn't need the XL for regular P9x79, but you would if you hads WS versions of LG2011 ( P9X79 WS or Z9P-D8 WS ). With that in mind, the XL R2 is bit more silent and cools a bit better due to its size. It also looks somehow bit cooler, albeit big and very heavy :- ). Reason why I advised OP Define XL was that he was already looking for Fractal Design ARC XL, so same size, but with benefit of mounting water-cooling at expense of silence. Yeah, Noctua is slightly challenge and I know what you mean about the feeling of destructing your CPU :- ) It is big, so when you gonna transfer your whole case in future, take a notice, it can bend the motherboard. Otherwise, best choice of cooler ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupaz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Otherwise, best choice of cooler ! Right. Actually, now that I know how to install it, I'll probably buy this again in future builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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