Devin Johnston Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I have a problem, I'm working on a church project and in the animation I need to show 3 different auditoriums for children of elementary, junior high and high school ages. I've looked around and there are very few animated assets available be it in 3d model or green screen. I guess my only real option would be to use 2d billboards of still images but this really doesn't fit because I have lots of animated people in all the other areas of the animation. Is there another way to do this that I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Get some models of kids, rig 'em and animate? A lot to do, but maybe they don't have to be doing much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 If only I had the time to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M V Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 AXYZ has some models of children, I think you can use mocap with their models. Not sure how you can create enough variety though. Are these children in uniform? That could be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 No there just dressed in casual clothing, I saw some pre-posed models on their site maybe I missed the rigged ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Penaloza Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I run with this problem every time, it seems that most of the 3d people modelers are more concern of creating hot chick and cool looking guys instead of regular people, that most of us want and need. - My work around is first try to persuade the client of not use crowd of people in the animation - If this does not work, I try silhouettes of people, you can find some animated people around, and just used them with a white material, semi transparent or something, you can get very nice results if you are creative. - Other option is good old RPC they have a giant library of regular people, children and what not, but sadly they have not updated in years and the software has a serious gamma issue, when I use them I always render people in a separate pass and do the heck of color toning on them, they are animated and you can show them from different angles so it is almost the perfect solution. - For high end results, you are better filming with green screen your own people. Since it is a Church, maybe you can talk with your client and setup a photo/video shoot with the same people of the community, talk them to participate in this new project, maybe you can offer blur the faces of the children if there is some concern about it I don't know, but this is the only way you'll get clear sharp images of the regular people that will fit your project. As mentioned above they actually don't have to move that much, Children seating and wiggling, parent standing and talking with each other, very actual, Check got 3D video people, they look good, but no big enough, no children. - There is other option like DAZ studio or any other people clone software, but all of them look zombie so not an option for me really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 I like the silhouette idea but I've already used 3d people in other parts of the animation and I'm not sure it would look right. I really don't want to use RPC's but that might be my only choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Penaloza Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 you could give a try to DAZ studio, they have a big library of content ready to use some crazy stuff there but there is some people who sells regular cloths and stuff, the pain would be animate them, you can pre animate in DAZ then export but I have not done in a very very long time so I'm not sure how that work now. But yes we don't have many 3d people assets as we think, for practical use we don't, but for "Fashion design" we do lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 we had to do an animation for a girls school last year and the only option was to get some modelled and rigged. its quite easy to do variations with clothing, skin and hair colours. can you find a freelancer and outsource it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Well the RPC plugin costs $500, I doubt I can get anything done for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What about inserting some stock school kids footage in front of your actual animation passes? Get some footage of some kids play. Cut to the stage with the curtain down, cut to the stock footage, then cut to the view of the auditorium from the kids point of view off the stage with some camera flashes. Sort of Ken Burns'ing that stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 I looked at that DAZ site, man some of that stuff is downright wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Do you even have the budget to deal with all this stuff? Clients love to ask for things that they see in movies but shy away from the $100million production costs. Could you do something like static images of the kids (3D or 2D) with a slow moving camera and just the sounds of kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 I like the way this sounds but it looks like we're going to go with using RPC's an comping them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Penaloza Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Do you even have the budget to deal with all this stuff? Clients love to ask for things that they see in movies but shy away from the $100million production costs. Yes this is true, every time a client approach me for a video, they ask for the next Hobbit!!! so a honest conversation with them, before you even turn on your computer is always the best way to start, every one what their project to look awesome but budget are fixed, most of the time they don't know how much time and effort it take to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 As Ernest mentioned... sound does an amazing job at giving life to static people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M V Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Studio AMD did some interesting things with static people with some transparency and motion blur to give them 'life'. http://studioamd.com/videos/guggenheim-video/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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