question about a quick build

[stevecol]

Hello

for arch Viz stills “ 3ds max, VRay, ZBrush, Photoshop, Marvelous Designer, Mari”

No gpu render just cpu render & 10 million polygons average scenes

shall I go with

I7 4930k + 16GB Memory (or) I7 4790k + 32GB Memory ????

 

I will pick GTX 760 2GB or even 750ti if its ok

cheap Mother board & 600w psu

 

 

This is a temporally build I have to buy it now to finish some projects “I will travel later & might sell it”

For now X99 & DDR4 are not available where I live and I will leave them to my biggest build later

 

Hope you guys help me

thanks

[Dimitris Tolios]

If the 16GB are even an option with the 4930K, why not keep them with the 4790K?

I get it, you've tried to get "closer" to the price, but if you can manage with 16GB, just go with it. No need to invest heavily in DDR3, and next generation "mainstream" i7 might also be DDR4, just like the Extreme line is today.

 

 

I would think a 4770K/4790K, X87/97 or even Hxx board, 16GB 1866 / 750Ti could have you covered for a few small projects. Sub or just over $1000 build, get the job done.

 

 

I think this is still "current" with some small changes:

 

 

http://pcfoo.com/2014/03/201403-a-true-itx-workstation-for-less/

[stevecol]

you right, I wanted to get closer to the price, you know the lowest can handle my scenes "10m to 16m polygons"

I asked like this I was just afraid to get 4790K and the get a slower rendering time then regret not to get the extra 2 cores

 

but if you know it can handle it then that's great

nice article I will try to find the same parts if not I will stick with 4790k

 

thank you very much for replying

[Dimitris Tolios]

Polygons are not the whole story. Texture sizes, output sizes, use of proxies and more important displacement maps can alter how much RAM is actually needed.

 

 

The idea behind the ITX sized workstation, is that you might be able to get it with you after you move. But the nature of the "beast" with ITX is that it is limited to 2x DIMM slots, thus 16GB of RAM. If you believe you will be getting close to needing more, just don't go for anything smaller than mATX and make sure it has 4x DIMM slots.

Edited September 4, 2014 by dtolios

[stevecol]

Texture sizes & output sizes : 2000 maximum & yes I might use a lot of proxies

 

I will try to find the ITX you recommended also not sure if its easy to get when traveling on plane "not sure if that what you meant"

[Dimitris Tolios]

You can move the ITX, sure. It is not a laptop, plus the workstation is half the story : you have monitors etc too.

But it is still the smallest form factor by far, so for a "one-time-move" getting it on a plane is not that bad.

 

 

I was dragging an external monitor to use with my laptop @ grad school, I believe if I had an ITX workstation I would be driving it back and forth too on days that I would stay late rendering etc.

[stevecol]

great suggestion I will look into that

thanks

[stevecol]

appreciate your help

 

one last question:

did you recommended the 4790 due to the price or do you really think the render time difference won't worth the extra bucks ?

[Dimitris Tolios]

Well, the 1230V3 is a pretty good bang for the buck, but the 4790K does add some oomph to the mix.

 

 

If it was E3 1230V3 vs 4770K, I would say probably the performance difference is insignificant and doesn't really worth $70-80.

The 4790K gives you considerable more base and turbo clocks. Is it a "must have" ?

Not in any way. But you will probably see some difference - that's always in real life experience, not benchmarks and other silly numbers.

 

Again, if you want to keep costs to a minimum, the 1230V3 remains a better value.

But if you want the fastest single threaded / fastest 4C experience without overclocking, the 4790K is an honest proposition (again, by comparison with the 4770K it replaces).

[stevecol]

thats great, but I meant the 4930k thats why I asked if you picked 4790 with 16gb for the price or just you don't think the extra core make big difference at this stage

single core performance might be the same but if render time decrease at least 30% I will get it with the same other parts and suitable cheap board

if not that big difference I will stay with what suggested first

[Dimitris Tolios]

Single threaded performance will be a tad better with the E3-1230V3 vs. the 4930K, and the 4790 will trump them both.

I consider the 4770K obsolete due to the 4790.

 

 

The hex will be faster when rendering regardless, a 30% or so as you say.

It depends on what you are doing. It the % of your workflow you are waiting for something to render is big, then it will matter more than if you are experienced enough and you are following a trusted "recipe" that gives you consistent results for quick jobs (i.e. what I'm doing for in house renderings in my office is pretty much cookie cutting).

 

 

My home computer (3930K overclocked) is notably faster than my work PC - HP Z420 E5 1620 - but it's not like having a stock hex would be a game changer.

Edited September 5, 2014 by dtolios

[stevecol]

I get it, you were very helpful... thank you very much for your time