Justin Hunt Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Its two males fighting for territory, they eventually got into the ceiling and continued to fight all night. It was quite fascinating to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 terrifying is that brisbane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 yes, granted I am in a rural area 30 minutes outside the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveG Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 You gotta love Queensland .... Anywhere that has, among the many other things out to bite you, sting you or eat you, a simple tree that if you touch it, will sting and leave you sick for a year, has got to be respected. Then again here in the West, Sadly I "mowed" a very poisonous 5 foot Dugite on the w'end. Hell, I'm not sure about outsourcing, we should be able to charge danger money here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 dont forget the dropbears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveG Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 dont forget the dropbears Yeah but..... everyone knows you're safe from the dropbears if you rub Vegemite in your hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Then you decide to cool off by going for a dip and there's box jellyfish and Great Whites.......... Steve Irwin might have a comment or two..........(from the beyond) Then the people! All descendants of criminals and pirates............. Yeah, I'm rushing out to buy a ticket right now, nicnic...... Edited November 7, 2014 by heni30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyJ Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 graaaaaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zdravko Barisic Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) this is a good thread enjoyed reading who wants to come and work in australia Me! ... I would love to be able to spend months making a forum-friendly images of Scandinavian homes under cloudy, moody skies and out-of-focus images of 1960s minimalist furniture, but unfortunately I have other things to do. You make pretty pictures of other people's ideas. ... Yeah, I would like that, too! Edited November 7, 2014 by okmijun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank... Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 who wants to come and work in australia When do i start!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooch Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Edited November 14, 2014 by fooch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog_a_lot Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I whole heartedly endorse danger pay for us Aussies.. I usually up my quote for jobs where I might have to venture outside into the wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piash Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 mxartz@gmail.com ... (https://www.behance.net/piash_3d_Artist) knock me anytime if you need 3ds max v ray works ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 ideally the applicant would live in australia or be able to move here. however there are snakes, many snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zdravko Barisic Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ^ trideval@yahoo.com http://trideval.blogspot.com/ I am born with snakes, many snakes! Perhpas, moving snakes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIGyoNEGOBw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hart Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 People should also be aware of the dreaded "Hoop Snake" in Oz. These guys grab on to the ends of their own tails forming a hoop - and roll after you at high speed before striking the neck. They are particularly known for attacking drunk people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhoura Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 australia sounds like a horrible place to live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 dont forget the snake eating Spiders http://comebirdwatching.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/snake-eating-spider-fair-dinkum.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Pedersen Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Tom, We first outsourced about 4-5 jobs (many years back to an Argentinian 3d studio) and they were very good (good quality of work, communicated well and understood the architecture) but unfortunately their price crept up until as you said they were almost outpricing our own costs and we would still have a lot of work to do to finish the project and deal with our client's changes and adjustments. The 2nd time we outsourced 2 jobs to a Cuban freelancing in Dublin and we soon after employed her on a full-time basis. She was with us for 7 years, so you could say we have been fairly lucky so far. Our last attempt at getting costs however did result in the same as you described, ie the subcontractor's cost being greater than our overall costs (and for only the 3d modelling portion of the work). So to my 2 bits of advice: 1 If you have to subcontract, set yourself up with a freelancer/subcontractor well before you actually get the big/urgent job you really need them for. 2 Try not to subcontract and instead provide several samples of good work with your quotations and then charge the cost you need to charge. Good clients will understand the value of good work. Submit your quotation in pdf form and refer to the samples in your quote, that way the architect will show them to the client and at least be thinking on terms of camparing like with like. Good Luck Jesper Edited November 26, 2014 by jesper54321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog_a_lot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 2 Try not to subcontract and instead provide several samples of good work with your quotations and then charge the cost you need to charge. Good clients will understand the value of good work. Submit your quotation in pdf form and refer to the samples in your quote, that way the architect will show them to the client and at least be thinking on terms of camparing like with like. Good Luck [/url] I personally dont agree with that.. im of the mind that all your work should be your best work.. Dont compromise. If someone isn't willing to pay for your best then don't do the job. Potentially you could have an option where a straight render is one price and a photoshopped render with people etc is a different price. But i think we as artists and in this industry should be trying every time to do our best work and gain little/nothing from purposely doing sub-par work for cheaper rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Pedersen Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Cameron, I think you misunderstood. What I meant was, yes of course show off your best work and as you said always strive for the best standard you can. That way the client can see your standard of work and he willl then very often enquire about the level of work being offered by competing quotes. In other words if he just has you cost of , say, $2000 versus another quote of $1000 with no associated images and he is inexperienced in sourcing CGI work, then he could well make the decision based on cost alone ..and believe me this happens more often than you think, particularly when the decisions are left to the client (by that I mean not the architect). Stay calm ..I agree with you Jesper Edited November 26, 2014 by jesper54321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dialog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Shocking and unexpected. Took the words out of my mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dialog Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 We have tried a few places over-seas and its typically a nightmare. We stick to in-house when we can and prefer the bigger names like Kilograph for example. We know their quality of work (have visited the studio as well). It really comes down to paying for quality. When hundreds of millions of dollars are on the line or in some cases billions, a few extra bucks on a reputable firm are well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich O Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 There is some amazing CG being produced in China (or at least, by Chinese). I've seen great stuff on CGsociety by generalists and rendering artists, architectural and otherwise. On the other hand I see very little work of quality out of India despite a massive vfx industry which I find odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog_a_lot Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 There is some amazing CG being produced in China (or at least, by Chinese). I've seen great stuff on CGsociety by generalists and rendering artists, architectural and otherwise. The issue i found with judging people on submitted work to websites etc is that they are 95% of the time, personal projects. I have had people that have shown brilliant work and skills for their portfolio work, but when it came to doing an actual job with a time frame and strict plans, materials etc they where horrible. There is a big difference between making a personal piece with your own choice in lighting, materials and furniture and making a commisioned work where you must do as you are told and within a time frame.. That seems to be where a lot of trouble with outsourcers comes from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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