Question for freelancer's or small studios

[philippelamoureux]

I would like to know... When you get a visualization job (for architecture), how many renders does your client usually ask you to do? I know it depends on the project size itself and costs, etc etc. I'm just curious. I would probably bet that most clients ends up asking for 3-5 renderings per project but I may be completely wrong.

[Justin Hunt]

one to two on average, on occasion up to four for small scale developments, for larger it can be up to fifteen and an animation.

[Nic H]

it can be between 1 - 50

[Eliot Blenkarne]

Usually starts at 1-2, then almost always becomes more. I'm currently doing an animation for a development here in NZ that I did some exterior renders on this time last year! Has been a great meal ticket for me.

[Zdravko Barisic]

1-2 renders for interiors, per room.

2-3 renders for exterior, per house.

I usually make more, for no reason, if I like the scene.

What did I found is that clients still think that few renders will be much more cheaper than 5-10 renders.

"2 images are 5 times cheaper than 10 images"

Why do you ask this?

[philippelamoureux]

1-2 renders for interiors, per room.

2-3 renders for exterior, per house.

I usually make more, for no reason, if I like the scene.

What did I found is that clients still think that few renders will be much more cheaper than 5-10 renders.

"2 images are 5 times cheaper than 10 images"

Why do you ask this?

 

Just wanted to know what an average rendering job looks like.

[Zdravko Barisic]

^

But, number of rendered images is not so important, personally for me. When the scene is done, I do not care about 5-10-185-200 rendered frames.

[numerobis]

Typically 1-3, sometimes more.

[RyderSK]

^

But, number of rendered images is not so important, personally for me. When the scene is done, I do not care about 5-10-185-200 rendered frames.

 

I used to have such philosophy way back but I find it wrong now. Simply finding another great/meaningful camera, adjust light and styling, communication (this alone takes great deal of time),review rounds with client,etc.. adds up enough overheard to warrant additional cost, if not the same cost as original image.

So I don't differentiate any stages for client in pricing scheme (although I outline them for creation process).

 

I run small studio, and since we work hierarchically (all on same project), it's mostly 10-20 per project (usually development).

[Justin Hunt]

Also doing way more images than what is asked for usually means having to constantly update all those "extra" views for free, which takes lot of resourses away from jobs that are paying.

 

In-house jobs tend to end up with a whole heap more views than is always necessary because its part of the design process

[harryhirsch]

agree with Juraj and Justin...some peopel think it is just a mouseclick and it is done...But it takes time to find another proper camera spot/setting, lighting, render time. I would charge 70% - 80% of the first picture.

[SkylineArch]

1-2 renders for interiors, per room.

2-3 renders for exterior, per house.

I usually make more, for no reason, if I like the scene.

What did I found is that clients still think that few renders will be much more cheaper than 5-10 renders.

"2 images are 5 times cheaper than 10 images"

Why do you ask this?

 

I do not believe that people completely understand CG work, and it's advantages over traditional art, by the way once a scene is modeled, textured and lit we can render out images with little additional effort.

[Nic H]

you would go broke doing that

pay per image delivered

certainly no freebies or discounts for second images - even if it is the same space

[TomasEsperanza]

I don't think freebies are a good business practice either, but for upselling to clients additional images can clearly be a good option. I suppose it depends on your workflow, and the quantity of initial scene content created.

[duaashebani]

Hello

[duaashebani]

Hi

[Ernest Burden III]

certainly no ... discounts for second images - even if it is the same space

 

So an animation is a regular rendering price X 3000 ?

 

I do discount multiple views of the same space, but even if asked for three view I put full price on the first, then a bit less for the next and so on (for example $4,500 for the first, $3,000 for the next, $2,500 for the next--but NOT $3,333 each for three). That way, if the client decides to cut back on an order you don't get stuck with the discount number being applied to a smaller number of renderings.

[philippelamoureux]

Thank you guys for your answers!

[arqueiro]

a town house - usualy 2-3

a condo - usualy 5-12

 

 

it really depends a lot.

[NigelStutt]

You price per job and that is to take into account the client type (large or small), number of images required/animation length, complexity of the job and the degree of quality required.

 

If the client asks for extra views you price for your time to do them and that would include for composition, camera, post production work etc and will nrmally be in the region of the same cost per view for the original price for the job minus the modelling time required (unless the extra view requires extra modelling). So if you quite £2000 for two views if the client wants another view I would charge him another £500-750 depending on complexity and time required.

 

There are no freebies in business otherwise you will shortly go bust. But obviously the price you quote also depends on market conditions in your locality and that would take into account living costs.