ad6 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hi, this is my very first post, even i been following CGArchitect for many-many years. Let me firstly wish a Happy New Year ! So, new year, time for a New PC. I've this "wish-list" for the new PC which i will use mainly for architecture and graphics purpose, running AutoCAD, 3ds Max, VRay, i will try Corona also, main Adobe apps and Rhino + Grasshopper : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/syqGt6 which contains : CPU Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor $549.95 CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $99.99 Motherboard Asus X99-PRO ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $307.99 Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $474.99 Storage Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $ 0 ( Santa Claus gave it ) Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 980 4GB AMP! Extreme Edition Video Card $604.99 Case Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case $149.99 Power Supply Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $129.98 Operating System Windows 7 Ultimate $0 ( i know someone who knows someone who'll give it to me, , ) Total $2277.88 ( +/- 1900.00 € for the old continent readers ) Considering to add Monitor Dell UP2414Q in a second moment. So, what do you think of it ? Any part i need to add for better performance, remove any "luxury" overpaid one , any better solution to save some more money ? I understand this was build mainly for a US market, how can i buy the same in Euro with the Italian VAT market integrated Income ? Does someone ever tried to use the Zotac GeForce GTX 980 4GB AMP! Extreme Edition Video Card for rendering with 3ds Max + VRay ? Does it worth waiting for a Tegra X1, GTX 980, or any other 8GB Video Cards till March ? I'll appreciate any suggestion for a new very good trusted A3 printer which you have tried or been using, for Duplex Black and white and A4, A3 and some good quality render images printing. Thank you very much indeed for your time. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hi, after a quick revision from Dimitris ὁ Μέγας ( The Great ) i have tried to build an other one, quite the same but with a lower budget: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MG6MD3 which contains ( in red the changed one ) : CPU Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor $373.99 CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $99.98 Motherboard Asus X99-A ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard $254.99 Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $439.99 Storage Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $ 0 Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB AMP! Extreme Edition Video Card $399.99 Case Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case $154.99 Power Supply Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply Operating System Windows 7 Ultimate $0 Total 1796,91 $ ( +/- 1500.00 € ) Do you think the second one is better balanced that the first one ? I would like to put a 8GB Video Card over there, any suggestion please ? Thank you. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolaos M Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I think Dimitri's (the Great) built is more balanced as regards to vfm. See another setup just as an alternative: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($244.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($418.50 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz) Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($123.88 @ OutletPC) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($339.95 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1875.26 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-17 08:27 EST-0500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Ghia Niko, thanks for replying, i just bought : CPU Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor 404,99 € CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler 92,99 € Motherboard Asus X99-A ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard 255,99 € Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 489,15 € Storage Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 0,00 € Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4 GB G1 GAMING 359,99 € Case Corsair Obsidian 750D Big Tower Mini-ITX, MicroATX 194,99 € Power Supply Corsair Professional HX750i 80+ 159,99 € Operating System Windows 7 Ultimate 0,00 € Monitor Dell UP2414Q 569,90 € Keyboard Rapoo E9060 34,99 € Total 2562,98 € ( TAX included, no shipping = less than 15,00 € ) I think we are talking to about quite the same Video Card over there i saw there are very little differences i hope not to be wrong, and till Monday i am still in time to change order... just tell me in case I hope in the future to add a 8 gb VideoCard, but for now, even it's not a 10K € monster, it's quite a good investment . Thanks to Dimitris and Nikolaos, thanks to everyone, i hope this configuration can help . A Edited January 17, 2015 by ad6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolaos M Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Gheia AD! Your setup is fine. I would save some money by changing the case, the psu and the cpu cooler. Where are you buying from? I think prices are a bit high in general. Gpu isn't exactly the same. G1 is a bit more highly clocked, more gaming oriented, I'd say. If you really want a great aircooler, see this one http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cryorig-cpu-cooler-crr1a. By far, the best air cooler in the market right now. It's less expensive than the mighty D15 and slightly better in performance. And one more thing. Why this monitor? 4K is too much for a 24" monitor, too dense in regards of pixel density. You should consider buying a 27" 1440p-ish monitor, ex. Dell UltraSharp U2715H, or HP Z27i. If you want to go for a 4K right now, don't buy less than 32". Anything smaller would have a pixel density too high for you to notice the differences from a 1440p monitor. Edited January 17, 2015 by nikolaosm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 24" 4K monitor is quite brave choice. Not sure if I would be comfortable with it working in environment like 3dsMax. Interested in writing how it feels and how will set it up (DPI scaling and so) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlonarducci Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 24" 4K monitor is quite brave choice. Not sure if I would be comfortable with it working in environment like 3dsMax. Interested in writing how it feels and how will set it up (DPI scaling and so) ? after few moment eyesight adapt to the screen. Try to think to a movie and try to think if you watched it at cinema or on TV you will not remember if it is very far, at least you will not remember the images size but just the plot (if the movies worths) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Γειά Nikolaos, , i really like that case, i mean where i bought it there were not so much to choose "Aesthetically" talking, i appreciate you trying to help me save some more. Actually i bought from Italy, 'cos i had/have set up everything in there/here, and you are right, prices are a bit high, like everything else in there/here, not quite everything , pizzas cost less . Thanks for the CPU Cooler, i was waiting for quotes but nothing seems to arrive for days, so i decided to go and buy, i appreciate it. The monitor, as i said it's a investment, a 27" 32" at 4K it's big and does cost a lot, i have been searching for quite a long time for the "perfect" monitor, and... it has to be a IPS, 4K, over 24" and i don't know anything else like UP2414Q, and i thought that for now it is a luxury monitor, tomorow, i hope Autodesk in April 2015 release bring out some 4K better support. Thank you. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Živijo Juraj, "brave choise", is a compliment or a doubt of yours ? It is still to arrive, once set all up, will be my pleasure to share with you everything. But i have a U2414H FHD in my office, and it doesn't sounds good with 3ds Max. I hope in a 4K full compatibility releases from Autodesk, that's all. Thanks. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ciao Carlo, i will never spent 600 € in watching movies, hope watching some good animations. Anyway this is my first build after a lot of time, i really hope it comes out a good one. Thanks. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlonarducci Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ciao Carlo, i will never spent 600 € in watching movies, hope watching some good animations. Anyway this is my first build after a lot of time, i really hope it comes out a good one. Thanks. A I agree with your choice. I have multiple screens I sacrified windwos mobility to manage more pc (3) at the same desk, so is ok for 1 pc to have a 24" (my main is 27"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ciao Carlo, as the wise said " Money make money", i hope to buy an othe 24" 4K maybe an other UP2414Q, it propably will cost less, . How do you manage 3 pcs ?! It's just difficult to me find the right mouse of 2 pcs i have in the office, . Maybe you are better organized... For now Carlo, i hope that the 24" will be ok, i'm not a big fan of 27-28", sometimes i have been using one 32", it's seems that AutoCAD it is like an infinite desk, which is better, for the rest, it seems that you must hardly engage yourself to find window browsers to fill all that space, imagine a 32" at 4K ?!?! Thanks for replying. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Živijo Juraj, "brave choise", is a compliment or a doubt of yours ? I am pretty sure Živijo is Slovenian instead :- ) Well, I think sort of both. Not that I don't believe higher resolution is better in every case (I do ! Long live 4K and more), just that until applications themselves and not only Windows offer proper scaling, 24" might prove to be uneasy to work with in 3dsMax. Regarding Autodesk, I don't know if they even care... I use mainly U3014 Dell, which I find too tall, but not wide enough ( I still use and always will second monitor). The 32" 4K are 16:9, which is better imho at such size, but yes pricier and the current models also too basic in their technology. The 34" 21:9 3.5k seems like interesting compromise. So mostly interesting how you will deal with the issues :- ) Looking forward then, have fun with new PC (even though it's for work..well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlonarducci Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) here we are 3 motinors, (1x16:9 2x4:3) 3 desktops 1 mouse 1 keyboards 1 chinese menu Edited January 17, 2015 by carlonarducci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ahoj there, : ) Juraj, it's not my fault : ), all pan-slavic colors, and a tiny Coat of arms in the site profile flag : ), which is actually to similar to the Slovenian one, it's mostly difficult not to make you a citizen of an other country : )... Sorry for that, my sincere apologies, : ). Well, you are right, and of course the "brave decision" comes out like a bet for the future, which i think it's going, it needs to go on that direction, actually my thinking was more like ; "if i buy a FHD or a WHD, next year maybe it will be already a "old" one, i do have to buy an other new 4K one " Yet, i don't know how i will deal with that, i believe in one of the most good human characteristics, hope, : ). But, it doesn't make sense that software companies will not be interested in this, Apple is looking forward with the retina and the 5K stuff, will now Adobe or Autodesk take the risk of not moving aside those hardware tecnologies ?! Does it make sense using a 5K Apple with a old Photoshop version, with tiny quite invisible icons over there ?! Well, i hope it will not happen, that's why i was "brave" in my decision, and of course i don't have money to buy each year a new monitor, : ). 34" sounds like a private cinema, i will be lost in finding icons, make me feel like being inside AutoCAD or 3ds Max, : ), i will like to try that anyway, : ). Thanks for your comment. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Carlo, how do you manage to write in different desktops without unplug-plug the keyboard and mouse ? The chinese menu is 4K ? : ) Thanks A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlonarducci Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Carlo, how do you manage to write in different desktops without unplug-plug the keyboard and mouse ? The chinese menu is 4K ? : ) Thanks A with synergy but low priority thread for max is hard to jump. Can you see hte desk image on latest post? I am not sure I can embend from Google drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad6 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 , Synergy , i see. Nope, no image visible over there, sorry. Thanks A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlonarducci Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 , Synergy , i see. Nope, no image visible over there, sorry. Thanks A so You cannot verify the 5k of the menu!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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