maxwood Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hey all, I'm looking at getting the Dell P2715Q, it's a 4k, 60hz, IPS panel. Just wondering if anyone else is running this particular monitor or if you're running in 4k? Is it worth it at this point? I'm in the market for a new IPS monitor anyway so figured I might as well make the jump to 4k. What kinds of problems have you encountered? I've seen a few things about Windows scaling are there still a lot of issues with programs not supporting this? I'm still running Max 2014 so I assume that will of course have some issues. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesgallagher Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 We use a 4k monitor at work and I personally don't find it very useful. I keep it at 2560 x 1440, I find it a more suitable resolution. I have a LG 1440p Ultrawide at home that I think is amazing, I would recommend it over 4k (http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-34UM95). You are able to split it into 4 smaller screens as well. They have a 1080p ultrawide as well that is quite a bit cheaper. They even have a curved one if you're feeling fancy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadkaiser Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't have one but yer the scaling is meant to be a real issue if you want 4k go 32inch apparently its bearable..... I currently run 27inch 1440p as do most people here i assume I personally think the text icon ect are already small enough if not a tad on the small side. At 4k 27inch with out scaling everything would be half the size..... the text on this website would be like 5pt.... so yes the scaling would simply be to much of a hassle.... obviously on the web browsers it not such an issue but i'm sure Vray would become absolute hell!! in summery what does 4k give you ATM - Terrible scaling issues - Bad input lag (for gamers) - Bad refresh rate commonly 40hz (cant be good for movies or games) - Expensive graphic card requirements - Overpriced monitor On the plus side you get a awesome image if you want a new monitor look at getting a 9:21 34inch screen (in a month or 2 currently have bleeding issues) or just a standard 27-30inch screen as there becoming quite cheap. If you must get 4k go 32inch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) As said above, 28" 4K is probably the bare minimum in size. 24" 4K is pointless for anything but gaming imho. If you are not into 4K video and using it as a secondary monitor for 1:1 playback that is. I would vote for 1440p panels all the way for increasing your usable on-screen real estate without messing up with scaling. Personally I have a Dell U2711 1440p 16:9 as my main, with a TN 24" 1080p as my secondary, which is a bit too wide for a secondary imho, as the 27 pushes it too far to the side. If I was investing in a monitor now, I would probably go for a 21:9 1440p. Perhaps an Acer XR341CK (IPS + GSync @ 75Hz) or a BenQ XR3501 (144Hz VA), both of which are coming this summer. Those 21:9 screens usually come with their own window tiling app, that allows you to arrange / dock widnows with a greater flexibility than what Win 7 & 8 OSs allow for, potentially dismissing the need for a secondary monitor all-together. Asus also announced the MG279Q, which is 16:9 27" 1440p IPS, but @ 144Hz, which I would probably pick over 1440p 60Hz panels that Dell, HP and others offer. It is not a bad deal if you don't want to go north of $600 (all those 21:9 1440p are $900 or more). EDIT: LG (maker of ALL IPS panels) announced 144Hz IPS with lower IPS glow / polarized filters etc being available ~ Q3 2015, so expect all manufacturers updating their line with those by Q3-Q4. That would include Dell, HP, AppleCinama Displays, Asus, Acer etc, so if are thinking of dropping some money on IPS panels but you can wait 6 months or so, maybe it worths it. Edited May 1, 2015 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadkaiser Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 agreed! however 24" 4K is pointless for anything but gaming imho. I'm fairly certain that all 4k monitor suffer from pretty bad input lag which makes them pointless for any competitive gaming...... essentially what this mean is the period of time till you see what happen on your screen is delayed so it cant be great for anything but the impact is far less in 3dsmax than csgo...... for most people just doing vis this really is admittedly not a big issue however its not like it great like 40hz!! I would wait a bit maybe windows 10 will fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwood Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Thanks for the thoughts guys. I'm already running a XL2420T at 120Hz so spending the extra money on another monitor with a high refresh rate just for gaming isn't really worth it. The 21:9 monitors you mentioned sound cool but I'll wait for the reviews and inevitable issues with their window tiling apps, probably more than I want to spend anyway. I'll have a look around for 27" IPS 1440p monitors and see how the refresh rate adds to the price. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The existing 1440p 21:9 panels are all 60Hz and made by LG, with the Acer "gaming" one being the only "75" Hz "overclocked/gaming" one. You won't find reviews for that, as it did not launch yet. There are a few reviews already for the existing monitors, both the "straight" and curved versions, usually bought under LG or Dell brands. Google/Youtube for those. The window tiling app - at least the one used by LG - is pretty good, I did not read anything negative about it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwood Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'm still debating this with myself. I did some quick research the other day and it seems that I'd be already looking at around £300 for a 27"+ 1440p IPS. It makes more sense to me to buy the 4k P2715Q now that you can get one for below £500 - rather than buying a 1440p now and a 4k in the next year or two. Cheaper in the long run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) If you think you need/want 4K, you have your answer. If you don't, IPS will be getting a revamp starting end of Q2 start Q3 2015 apparently, with LG making available to all vendors 144Hz IPS panels. Some 1440p 27" @ 144Hz are already announced, 1080p are available. 4K packs quite a bit more pixels, so the problem is currently supported protocols like Display Port 1.2 & its sister Thunderbolt (as far as displays go are identical) support up to 60Hz. There isn't enough bandwidth to drive more refreshes from the GPU even if the panel would support it, and I don't know how far away Display Port 1.3 is from becoming available to both GPUs and Monitors. Trying to say that the IPS world will move up from 60Hz after "ages", but I don't know when that will be available for 4K users. Could be "some ages" more. Edited May 12, 2015 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwood Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Decided to go with the Dell U2715H, picked it up this morning - looks great but not had chance to get stuck into it properly yet. Decided against 4k because of the support issues everyone was mentioning and I'm glad I did, the text/icons are small enough at 1440p! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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