edmon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hi I just want to ask if i need to sell my current GPU card (GTX 980) to buy the Quadro K5000 because someone is want to sell me the K5000 in very cheap price almost half the price of new K5000 let's say he sell it for only US$600 and i see it on amazon site..the current price is $1,679.00 now my question is do i need to sell my current GTX 980 to buy these to use for my 3DS max and Vray 3.0 for rendering..i always use Max most of the time for 3d modelling and vray for rendering...right now my current GPU does not support VRAY RT..need to upgrade to VRAY 3.1, I look everywhere to find the answer but still im confused..they say the GTX is much faster to render in VRAY but its not stable when you render long hours and not accurate..and does not support 10bit color on monitor...(that's what i read) im not play games that much..so i just need a gpu workstation that i can used long time and give me best quality and accurate rendering..I saw the price of the K5200 is very expensive and its out of my budget...I just need to decide immediately before the K5000 that he sell will bought by others..i told him to reserved for me now...Thank u.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmaknev Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Quadro cards are not really used for rendering, they are mostly used for viewport performance, but I still don't understand why people pay thousands for quadro when GTX can do almost same job or even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 ok..thanks for the answer..but they say gtx gpu is not stable when it comes to rendering for a long hours..they say its always hang or crash the program..(like 3ds Max) compare to quadro gpu..when using Vray RT rendering and CUDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Who is they? They probably don't have the best cooling for the GPU which is why it could be crashing after long hours. Plus, who in their right mind renders for long hours on the GPU? GPU is for fast renders and to get away from long hours of render time. If you want hours and hours of rendering, use the CPU. If you have money to throw around, don't sell the 980. Keep it and run dual cards. That way you can GPU on the k5000 and work in the view port on the 980. Though, I wouldn't hold much hope for that half priced k5000. It's probably busted or stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Some thoughts/points @ random order: * There are certain applications that easily warrant buying Quadro/Firepro cards over their "gaming" siblings. 3DS Max & Vray RT are not two of those. * The K5000 is still a fast card, but has nothing on a 980 for GPGPU rendering, given ofc you are using updated software that works well with Maxwell architecture. * The K5000 was "replaced" by the K5200 that sells for pretty much the same price, is faster, has double the Vram and is more efficient. The fact that retailers still have K5000 cards listed for $1600-1700, doesn't speak the truth - nobody should pay that kind of money for the discontinued model. * If you can find a K5000 for $600ish, buy it and sell it for a decent profit! * I don't know which 980 you have, but you should be able to run it at stock clocks over a few days with no issues (practically 24/7). If it takes you many hours to GPGPU render a scene, as Scott stressed above, you are doing it wrong. If you insist on GPGPU, get more GPUs. Use the money you made out of the K5000 flip, and buy yourself another 980. Ideally sell the 980 too, and buy yourself 3x 970s * If something "always" crashes, there are issues for sure, but it is not the GTX...have been using GTXs for GPGPU over weeks or months even straight with no issues. Others have been using GTX & Radeon cards for mining cryptos for months straight - often overclocked as far as they could - again with no issues. Edited June 10, 2015 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Who is they? They probably don't have the best cooling for the GPU which is why it could be crashing after long hours. Plus, who in their right mind renders for long hours on the GPU? GPU is for fast renders and to get away from long hours of render time. If you want hours and hours of rendering, use the CPU. If you have money to throw around, don't sell the 980. Keep it and run dual cards. That way you can GPU on the k5000 and work in the view port on the 980. Though, I wouldn't hold much hope for that half priced k5000. It's probably busted or stolen. Hi Scott thanks for advice..right now I bought already the K5000 and now I have two cards with the EVGA GTX 980 and my problem is how to run it in dual cards on 3ds max..do i need two monitor to connect each cards? or there are settings to configure.. and how can I use my k5000 for rendering and the GTX 980 for viewport...my vray version is 3.0 so that I can't render on gtx 980..hopefully the Vray RT 3.0 can work on K5000..Thanks again.. Edited June 13, 2015 by edmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Some thoughts/points @ random order: * There are certain applications that easily warrant buying Quadro/Firepro cards over their "gaming" siblings. 3DS Max & Vray RT are not two of those. * The K5000 is still a fast card, but has nothing on a 980 for GPGPU rendering, given ofc you are using updated software that works well with Maxwell architecture. * The K5000 was "replaced" by the K5200 that sells for pretty much the same price, is faster, has double the Vram and is more efficient. The fact that retailers still have K5000 cards listed for $1600-1700, doesn't speak the truth - nobody should pay that kind of money for the discontinued model. * If you can find a K5000 for $600ish, buy it and sell it for a decent profit! * I don't know which 980 you have, but you should be able to run it at stock clocks over a few days with no issues (practically 24/7). If it takes you many hours to GPGPU render a scene, as Scott stressed above, you are doing it wrong. If you insist on GPGPU, get more GPUs. Use the money you made out of the K5000 flip, and buy yourself another 980. Ideally sell the 980 too, and buy yourself 3x 970s * If something "always" crashes, there are issues for sure, but it is not the GTX...have been using GTXs for GPGPU over weeks or months even straight with no issues. Others have been using GTX & Radeon cards for mining cryptos for months straight - often overclocked as far as they could - again with no issues. Yes thanks Dimitris..but my problem is my current GTX 980 which is based on Maxwell are not yet compatible to my Vray 3.0 need to upgrade to 3.1..and I think the K5000 that based on Kepler is compatible in Vray 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziozioism Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Yes thanks Dimitris..but my problem is my current GTX 980 which is based on Maxwell are not yet compatible to my Vray 3.0 need to upgrade to 3.1..and I think the K5000 that based on Kepler is compatible in Vray 3.0 but the keplers are almost useless in vrayrt, fermi doing best in rt atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Maxwell and Kepler work fine with the corresponding updates in Vray RT that contain the optimizations for each architecture. It is true that Fermi had a far better performance / core record than Kepler, so a 580 was indeed better than a 680, but when you have that much more cores with a 780 / Titan etc, it made little difference: keplers were faster overall, and maxwell is even faster than Fermi any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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