neil poppleton Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I have just been informed that after 2015 you can only purchase a new copy of 3dsmax as a rental - Autodesk call it desktop subscription, at a massive cost of over £2000 + vat each and every year. Is this what others have been informed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yeah, since last year we've known about this. Your sales rep needs to get on the ball. You can stay on the 2016 version as long as you like, you just can't upgrade. I don't know how I feel about it, but I have to have zero opinion because Autodesk has me by the grapes and I have to go wherever they pull me. I don't mind subscription software, I love what Adobe has done but Autodesk's prices just seem a bit high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil poppleton Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I agree Scott. We are on subscription which works ok and reasonable fee each year... but if we expand and want new seats the cost is far too high for rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inpow watir Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 You know, maybe its time to think more about making better the competition and not to get too dependent to a single particular tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Schroeder Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 You know, maybe its time to think more about making better the competition and not to get too dependent to a single particular tool. The competition is there already. It is just that for our company to re-tool all of our pipeline into something like Modo or C4D would cost us $100,000+ in man hours and lost production time to move everything over. It would be a financial strain on us to try to stick it to Autodesk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Penaloza Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 You know, maybe its time to think more about making better the competition and not to get too dependent to a single particular tool. Yes it is more easy to say than do really, at least here in USA 99% of the work is done with Autodesk products, and try to use anything else it just imply add extra man hours to do what could be done with any Autodesk product. It is sad, really, but if you are 1 men business, maybe it can work, if you are a medium or large company, it is almost not possible. Is like using Mac in an arch firm, yes they do use it, but they still run Windows on them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualizedconcepts Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I got a call from Autodesk yesterday. They were worried I did not understand their new licensing model and since I have been on subscription for 10+ years were concerned I miss out on their deal for existing perpetual licenses. I told him that I regret paying for subscription at least for the last 5 years and that their change finally tipped me over the edge of cutting the court. Of course sooner or later they will get me as formats change and can't be saved down to older versions etc. But when I look at my one core being at 100% when running max (non-rendering) while the other 15 relax, or when I do robot animations with populate (how many iterations is that tool on ?) or backburner or how cinema4d and even blender progressed over the years - I feel robbed by the subscription. No more revised icon-graphics for me. He did not seem to be overly surprised so I hope he keeps hearing a variation of this customer response as often as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef Wienerroither Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) I got a call from Autodesk yesterday. They were worried I did not understand their new licensing model and since I have been on subscription for 10+ years were concerned I miss out on their deal for existing perpetual licenses. I told him that I regret paying for subscription at least for the last 5 years and that their change finally tipped me over the edge of cutting the court. Of course sooner or later they will get me as formats change and can't be saved down to older versions etc. But when I look at my one core being at 100% when running max (non-rendering) while the other 15 relax, or when I do robot animations with populate (how many iterations is that tool on ?) or backburner or how cinema4d and even blender progressed over the years - I feel robbed by the subscription. No more revised icon-graphics for me. He did not seem to be overly surprised so I hope he keeps hearing a variation of this customer response as often as possible. I gave this a serious thought too and finally prolonged my maintainance subscription. In my opinion Max 2016 is a great release and considered stopping maintainance sub right now at this point ( when you no longer can jump into it after jan. 2016 ) would be a a bad move. I personally got all confidence in the Max dev team and what they are doing back since the Max 2016 dev cycle. Do you use the Max 2016 version ? I really can't see anything bad with it , at least after the recently released SP2 The Autodesk license transition side is of course utterly bad for the customer, which i only could escape by completly abondoning Autodesk software alltogether, but for that i love Max too much ... Edited December 5, 2015 by spacefrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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