marcinpabich Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I am bulding new workstation based on newest dual Intel Xeon v4: 2xIntel Xeon E5-2696 v4 22 core 1xnVidia Asus GTX 1080 Strix 8 GB Samsung DDR4 2400 MHz 4x32GB (128GB) RDIMM ECC Samsung M.2 NVMe 950 PRO 512 GB Asus Z10PE-D8 WS 2xNoctua NH-D15 Nanoxia DeepSilence 6 revB Corsair AX1500i Noctua NF-A14 FLX Running software: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit 3ds Max 2016 V-Ray 3.4 And i have question if all these stuff will work correctly together: 1.V-Ray 3.4 already support 88 threads from version 3.3 yes? And it's working without problem on Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit? On Chaos Group forum i saw that Peter Guthrie had some problems with Xeon v4 and Windows 10. This issue was solved finally? 2. 3ds Max 2016 will work fine on Pascal GTX 1080? 3. Asus Z10PE-D8 WS with newest BIOS 3204 boots system from NVMe drives like Samsung M.2 950 PRO ssd? I am planning to have in this WS only one M.2 ssd and no other ssd and hhd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Hi, answered your email, but I'll copy some of the post here for others. V4 are popular and I built some myself so :- ). Asus Z10PE-D8 WS had issues with v4 gen that bios upgrade didn't solve and Asus replaced them for second revision for free. You just have to send them the board. Asus Z10PE-D16 WS doesn't have any issues. 2xNH-D15 might be tight fit, I can't honestly say if it will fit but it's quite absurd choice :- ) NH-U14S that I use is still overkill that needs barelly to spin and get The Windows issue, is only with Windows 10, and it concerns Start Menu search process, which can initiate leak in runtimebroker. As absurd as this sound, none of the existing solutions for both search function and runtimebroker works, so I am left buffled as to what is the true cause. Unfortunately there was supposed to be new bios by Asus, but it's nowhere to be see. 3204 is to stay with us for some time. Vray 3.3+ and Corona 1.4+ support the use of processor groups, which Windows will create with more than 64 threads available. Most software do not unfortunately see them, and will choose randomly one group (always half the threads). Unreal 4 is currently one of those...(sucks for light baking). Can't comment on NVMe in M.2 slot booting, I've read about the issue in overclockers.uk but I don't use them myself. Photo of U14s in my v4 build: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Apparently, the Win10 issue with CPU-Groups (2n+) causing memory leak in search process has been solved by recent anniversary update. Yay for us 64+ core owners :- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris MacDonald Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Is the 2696 V4 actually out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numerobis Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Yes it should be 2699 v4 2696 = OEM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#Xeon_E5-26xx_v4_.28dual-processor.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Yup, 2696 and 2679 are both pretty cool oems. The latter almost exclusively bought by Poles :- ) https://corona-renderer.com/benchmark/ There is actually even E5 QS stepping with 24 cores, it's not even listed in the wikipedia ( maybe because it became E7 chip in production stepping, with lower clock ). It went pretty expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 You Poles stop sucking up the supplies of OEM Xeons! Probably a couple of friends in the same company got a bunch and wanted to show off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris MacDonald Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm just getting a quote for a 2U Server with dual E5 2690 V4's/64GB and an NVMe SSD put together for our render farm. Will let you know what that comes in at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cool. If it is too expensive, the NVMe should be the 1st thing to drop/replace with a "vanilla" M.2...the extra speed its simply wasted in a render machine (and probably 99% of ArchViz workstations too). But the price difference is probably a drop of $200-300 (marked up through the OEM) in a bucket of $6,000 so most will say "just go for it". It is the same way companies like Dell and HP "slip" the "necessity" of marked up Quadro or Firepro cards in their workstations my simply not giving you an option for anything "cheaper" that would perform the same in pretty much all Autodesk applications...no, for them workstation = workstation card. But... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris MacDonald Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Yep, our IT guy suggested it - but I am more than happy with a SATA SSD to be honest, but then I'm not the one paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) I am using 850 EVOs exclusively, almost no TLC drawbacks (my 840 were nightmare, even after all firmware updates and regular 'refreshing' ), and quite affordable now. I have them in Workstation, Fileserver, older laptop. 1 TB goes for less than 300 euros. Would consider NVMe drive if I was routinely transferring terabytes of data on workstation itself ( not through local network ). no, for them workstation = workstation card Heh, I always scratch my head when I catch some hardware site discussion below article (like when new Titan came out), a lot of people will come out with "it's not a true workstation without quadro card, you're endangering your work precision and stability,etc.. " and everyone will go on agree train. That's what I call successful marketing if even the people who won't buy the card know for whom it is needed. Edited August 17, 2016 by RyderSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Tolios Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Yep, our IT guy suggested it - but I am more than happy with a SATA SSD to be honest, but then I'm not the one paying for it. If they are in a spending mood, its much better to have them deck out your file server with SSDs. NVMe is pointless if you are still serviced with Gbit LAN, but random access improvements over a HDD RAID are huuuuge and enough to justify SATA SSDs for something that services everyone. I would not be afraid of TLCs as Juraj said, and those 4TB 850 EVOs are so tempting to substitute 4TB HDDs... NVMe is like a ultra high-speed subway system with lots of stops: there is simply too little room between stations to let the train (drive) go to full speed and then decelerate comfortably, so a SATA class controller, m.2 (like the EVO M.2) or direct Sata drive simply ends up being of the same average performance in real life applications. Edited August 17, 2016 by dtolios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris MacDonald Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I don't disagree, we already have an NVMe card in one of our file servers that is dedicated to 3D (we haven't actually started using it yet, it's still new) so will be interesting to see how that works. Pretty sure the network is geared up for gigabit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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