heni30 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Well, we know how much $59 will get you; this rendering was $600. We (interior design firm client) needed a last minute emergency rendering - Chinese co. turned it around in 3 days. A quantity discount will bring i t down to $450. Communication was a tiny bit bumpy but I would say at an o.k. level. Edited September 18, 2017 by heni30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaledbou Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Nice render... maybe a single one isn't enough though just a question, they did both the design and render ? what have you provided them ? (description, sketch, or photo references ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Sher Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Hi, the design is really straight forward. I am not surprised in terms of speed. Render is nice and clean however on that kind of design it would be difficult to get it really wrong. All in all, good render and decent speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dollus Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 first time using them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 No - About 4 years ago, Hartsfield (Atlanta) had the biggest airport expansion ever (we did 30 renderings) and they were recommended by a very reliable large firm VP. I do believe quality and communication have improved a lot. Price has gone up some. I spoke with several local studios; the main issue I found was that absolutely no one was willing to drop what they were doing and crank out a rendering for us in 2-3 days. If you have someone on staff who is Chinese and speaks Mandarin you've got it made in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ernest Burden III Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I keep seeing job ads here in NY for a Chinese rendering firm setting up shop. So they're doing more than a few salespeople in the local market with all actual work going back to China, this place is hiring (or trying to) artists to work in NYC. And it's a plus if you speak Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 And the posted rendering ain't bad. I'm surprised you couldn't find anyone to do it more locally, though you might have needed to go closer to $1000. It's a simple enough task, so long as you aren't modeling all the handbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineArch Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Minus finding or modeling the bags, that's only 3-4 hours of work... I would have done it for $600, overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 Their big plus is that they have a lot of people and can work on many renderings simultaneously - Like if they can do 1 in 4 days - they can do 6 in 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineArch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Like if they can do 1 in 4 days - they can do 6 in 4 days. Wait, they get 4 days? That's it, I'm moving to China! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ha! That's just taking into consideration coordination logistics. They also offer an express overnight service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamondayfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well, we know how much $59 will get you; this rendering was $600. We (interior design firm client) needed a last minute emergency rendering - Chinese co. turned it around in 3 days. A quantity discount will bring i t down to $450. Communication was a tiny bit bumpy but I would say at an o.k. level. [ATTACH=CONFIG]55793[/ATTACH] I guess if you're happy with "an o.k. level" then fill your boots. In my opinion this quality of this image is something I'd expect from an intern, and is OK for signing off a design. It certainly doesn't sell the design, but it's clear and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himanshuchoudhary Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wait, this render cost 600usd when done in china? Could you please let me know the scope of work!? I might be doing something very wrong if this is the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) I guess if you're happy with "an o.k. level" then fill your boots. In my opinion this quality of this image is something I'd expect from an intern, and is OK for signing off a design. It certainly doesn't sell the design, but it's clear and clean. Hey Dean, It's a crazy rendering niche. Airport shops. I know there are a lot of people here whose bread and butter norm is "ok" because that is what is required. "ok" is ok due to: a.) it's what is needed - no more) b.) it's what the budget allows for c.) it's what the schedule demands If you're not comfortable working at that level then you move up to a higher end studio. But I don't think it's appropriate to look down condescendingly at this segment of the industry. It serves a purpose and people are doing the best that they can. Edited September 19, 2017 by heni30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wait, this render cost 600usd when done in china? Could you please let me know the scope of work!? I might be doing something very wrong if this is the case! Companies here pay for reliability - how established a studio is; someone they can count on at ALL times. It''s not just about the rendering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himanshuchoudhary Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Companies here pay for reliability - how established a studio is; someone they can count on at ALL times. It''s not just about the rendering. Oh of course, i understand that. To be honest, the reliability or the quantity isn't my concern as i have been churning out images day in day out from the last 5 years with established clients and in a very high end quality output. What i am worried about is that I might be charging much less than what i can, hence wanted to know the exact scope of work what the studio did for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Do you work for a studio or freelance - or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himanshuchoudhary Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Both. Working in a small studio as Sr. viz-artist and also have freelance clients coming in every few months with some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineArch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What i am worried about is that I might be charging much less than what i can,. I feel I'm in the same situation. Over the years renderings take me 1/3 to 1/2 the time as they did 10 years ago, but I do not feel like my rates have kept up wit the cost of living. Even though I do a low volume of ArchViz only as side work now, I would like to remain competitive to not undercut other companies, and the keep the expected fees from being driven down in the industry. and @Dean. It is all relative on what the client expects and needs. The interior renderings I do for Interior Designers, I'm lucky if I get a week to complete 6 or so renderings of different areas of a given space. I usually get finishes and final furniture the last day or two. I have to model from outdated CAD and some photos. have 2 or 3 or 4 rounds of reviews up until the night before the presentation. So the clients understand the quality has to slip a little. Also, they are more concerned about the accuracy of the finishes, which can not be effected by "realistic" lighting. All this gets done at night, usually after 8 or 9 when the kids go to bed, so actually 2 or 3 days if it was full time work. And after every project I swear I'll never do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heni30 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 I mentioned before that this Chinese company can give us half a dozen renderings at the same time. A small studio or freelancer can't compete with that, which is what i meant by reliability. So quality and price are secondary (not too secondary) to my client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himanshuchoudhary Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 If we are talking about 6 renderings of the same space, so can we. Did the guys also do all the 3d modelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I feel I'm in the same situation. Over the years renderings take me 1/3 to 1/2 the time as they did 10 years ago, but I do not feel like my rates have kept up wit the cost of living. Even though I do a low volume of ArchViz only as side work now, I would like to remain competitive to not undercut other companies, and the keep the expected fees from being driven down in the industry. and @Dean. It is all relative on what the client expects and needs. The interior renderings I do for Interior Designers, I'm lucky if I get a week to complete 6 or so renderings of different areas of a given space. I usually get finishes and final furniture the last day or two. I have to model from outdated CAD and some photos. have 2 or 3 or 4 rounds of reviews up until the night before the presentation. So the clients understand the quality has to slip a little. Also, they are more concerned about the accuracy of the finishes, which can not be effected by "realistic" lighting. All this gets done at night, usually after 8 or 9 when the kids go to bed, so actually 2 or 3 days if it was full time work. And after every project I swear I'll never do it again. glad I am not the only one I used to be able to do this for extended periods of time, but not so much these days, I must be getting old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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