RyanSpaulding Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hey guys, I'm doing a new "fix up" project right now. It's a condo being developed that had like rock and sand and all that as landscaping for now. They need it to be in a small brochure soon and so I'm dressing it up, adding a grass, replacing the grey sky, ect. My problem exists where the building doesn't really look like it is there. I haven't done ca horizon line, I'm just trying to make the building look like it was taken on a beautiful day instead of 20 degrees fahrenheight and cloudy. I cant really tell what is throwing me off a bit, maybe some of you vets can take a look quick. Maybe a slight color balance problem? Thanks a ton in advance. http://www.theenvisiongroup.net/images/touchup_web.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 First thing you are going to want to do is adjust the contrast of the photo....try auto contrast, that normally wokrs for me. Next thing I would l do is play with the curves...this will help brighten the image up a little. And like you mentioned, it looks like your horizon doesn't match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Isolate the building on its own layer so what you do only affects it. First, try brightness/contrast to increase the contrast. This will also add color saturation which should help. Then do adjust>hue/saturation and slide the saturation up to 100% and then work backwards until you get a nice amount of color in the image. If you did a strong contrast adjust, you may actually need to go DOWN with the saturation, but its a slider so experiment. Do not simply accept an overall adjustment if it isn't exactly what you want. Seperate the materials--brick, siding, roof, glass either with selections or by layer copies with all else erased. Then work on the contrast/saturation/color balance (easy using 'hue' slider) for each element. Finally, you may want to produce stronger shadows by again selecting the shapes of the shadows--think of them as objects with a certain shape--and darkening them by a levels or curves adjustment, or by filling with dark brown then edit>fade fill set to mulitply or overlay mode (experiment) and again play with the slider. That should get you started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSpaulding Posted January 4, 2005 Author Share Posted January 4, 2005 Cool. Thanks a lot guys. Workin on it as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Ryan, Maybe a little late...... Use a channel, blue in this case> create a copy> adjust levels for proper masking> Paint out fascias & grass> make the channel a selection> create new layer> fill with and orange color (warm Sunlight)> create a mask from selection for new layer> Set layer to soft light and adjust fill/opacity> Do a Color Burn layer and paint/mask to darken the garage side, put the focus on the front. You can invert the channel mask to do what ever like desaturate the sky, use it make a mask to put tree behind the house.......However you normally comp your stuff. If you have CS you could try the channel mask and the shadow/highlight image adjustment. It's really quick and effective, imho, ten minutes and good results. Cheers WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSpaulding Posted January 4, 2005 Author Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hey, just givin an update for you guys. I'm still waiting on their plant specifics, but the help that has been provided has been essential. Man I love CGA More tips/pointers needed. http://www.theenvisiongroup.net/images/touchup_web2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Ryan, I'd tone down the garage side illumination- it's annoying, attention keeps being drawn to the garage doors, thats my opinion. But then again all I see in the original is working in the mud, yuk- not missing that a bit. WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 You almost lose the path to the front door. Get it back. More color! Saturate, saturate! Address the glass seperately from the rest, it should have life and sparkle. OK, I see you darkened the glass. Good, but you lost any lights. You want a hint of seeing inside to make the house inviting. Also, I notice there are brackets under the eaves, mask them and add contrast and color, they are hard to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicks Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Nelson Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 WDA, do you think you could post an action for the method you used? I've only been using PS for a couple of years and some of the steps you mention seem a little beyond my comprehension. Your results look great & I would like to have a better understanding of how this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 WDA, do you think you could post an action for the method you used? I've only been using PS for a couple of years and some of the steps you mention seem a little beyond my comprehension. Your results look great & I would like to have a better understanding of how this works. I second that. WDA, your adjustments are top notch and I too would like a better idea of what you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molok Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 So do I! Please WDA, explain a little more what you did. I am a bit confused with channels I'm afraid. A brief tutorial would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Let me see what I can work up or find a link to a tutorial. Finally snowed, for real-2" yesterday. Just got in from playing, with the adult version tonka toy front end loader- plowing snow last night. Looking at 3-6" more today- I need some sleep now, will post late evening or so hopefully. WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSpaulding Posted January 5, 2005 Author Share Posted January 5, 2005 ^^ Haha. Gotta love Wisconsin. I swear it snowed so much more when I was young. And where the crap are the grasshoppers? They basically died out in WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Nelson Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Arizona just had a huge rain & snow storm the past couple days. Flagstaff got 2 feet of snow!!! It will be the best ski season here in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Ryan, Yea it's wierd those grass hoppers, seems to me I think it's cyclical. Ever notice how the frogs don't croak every 11 years, they skip a breeding season or something like it. Hey when I was in grade school, we had real snow on the ground before christmas almost every year. Then one year the parents made us wash the cars christmas day, 70 degrees and sunny....went downhill from there LOL Tim, You out west need precip anyway you can get it, don't you? Well heres a little video tut. Sorry about the static, better sound doubled the file size. "Save Link As" file is about 7mins 11mb. It's unscripted soooo....... http://www.wdadesign.com/links/CGA/mask3.avi Cheers WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molok Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Thanks a lot, WDA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Nelson Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Yea, thanks a bunch William! Downloaded but haven't watched it all the way through yet. Just enough to hear the thick Norwegian accent! Had any lefse lately? All my dad's relatives live in Wisconsin and every time I visit I always pick up the accent like I was born there. Thanks again for the tut. Will really help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Very cool. It's great that you took the time to do this for us! -Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEIF Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Thanks alot WDA...really a great job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Very Happy it was helpful! Timmatron, What accent? hehehe Everybody up here talks normal We don't do much lefse in the SE corner of the state, mostly kilbasa, sour kraut, drink beer and in Waukesha lot's of home made tacos & enchilada's. Your relation from the western part of the state? The Viroqua area and in particular "westby" is very Norwegian-like 1000%. At one time the Olympic Ski jump ramps were in 'Coon Valley' just outside westby , I think there might be relationship;) . Very cool area-very good people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hey William, That tutorial was very good. Are you in the training industry....? If not you should....! Have you met Murphy at Green Bay....? Once again excellent..... How did you fill the grass on the image... using the same masking technique....? I worked with a group from Wisconsin during the 80's. Nice people.....! No accent what so ever.... Well maybe when compared to mine....! That why use morse code...... ... _._ SK end of message Thanks Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hey William, That tutorial was very good. Are you in the training industry....? If not you should....! Have you met Murphy at Green Bay....? Thanks for the BOOST, really needed that today. Lots of trials, tribulations, indecisions...... and out of the blue.......Thanks No not formally in the training industry (does 20yrs of training people in the trades to do upper to top end work, count?), reference last comment. Yes talked with Murph for like 30 minutes when I cross up-graded to Max6, incredibly good man, very few like him anywhere! I'll send you a PM, have a couple questions for you about this stuff.... Once again excellent..... How did you fill the grass on the image... using the same masking technique....?Could have, using a garbage mask and the red channel. However I think for getting the grass to look natural/organic painting the mask edges gives it that feel. You do the edges might as well paint/fill the interior mask too-imho. I worked with a group from Wisconsin during the 80's. Nice people.....! No accent what so ever.... Well maybe when compared to mine....! That why use morse code...... ... _._ SK end of message Those the Tombstone pizza nuts? You start the message with ... --.- ... --.- until you get a response too? That is if I remember correctly, btw had to google the _._ (so much unused knowledge lost ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 William, _._. _ _ . _ _._. _ _ . _ (CQ) Wao, its been a while. I learned Morse Code (CW) when I was 13 years old.... That's 40 years ago..... Now totally obsolete. I have a small PC program that decodes the morse code audio and displays it as text. Some of the aerly Samuel Morse experiment where conducted from Puerto Rico. My kids think I learned morse code straight from Samuel Morse. He he he Four years ago I was at Murphy for Ted Boardman's training during one of the worst snow storms I have ever seen. It was cold.... I forgot about the Pizza story... Yeap, the same fellows. Some of them have died. Very Very Very nice people..... I have been suggesting that perhaps one of these days we should have our own convention - meeting. We don't need to go to Sisgraph.... the fellows are here..... on this forum. We should get the people from the forum to have our own private convention. There is a lot of very talented people here, some are very interesting fellows. If we have this meeting, some of you could put some training classes. You should do the Photoshop....! See you and Thanks Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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