garethace Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u:(nf/20030707/bs_nf/21857 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethace Posted July 11, 2003 Author Share Posted July 11, 2003 If a throw the hammer, i might as well throw the hachet! Right click and save. 3.5MB. http://venomoussvt.com/pewterz28/images/pics/mac.wmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 i didn't watch the video, but the news of adobe pulling its video editing software from mac doesn't surprise me. everyone is always praising final cut pro. i have never used it myself, so i don't know if it lives up to its reputation, but i have a feeling it does. corporate budgets are tight right now, adobe saw an oppurtunity to save a lot of cash in a market where they weren't making enough cash. i don't use mac, but i feel bad for the mac users out there who will be losing a resource. what are the other 2 video editing apps beside final cut for apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethace Posted July 12, 2003 Author Share Posted July 12, 2003 I do aggree with you, Apple have lost out big time to other oses in the corporate market now. Which is like the big editing and graphic imaging companies, where Apple and Adobe would have worked hand in hand, back in the mid to late nineties. Most or alot of them have scaled down there operations now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingo Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Well i think noone cares that Adobe drops premiere for the Mac. But saying that it costs to much is simply dumb, or showing how bad the guys at Adobe work. A few years ago these guys were saying that developing the Windows versions costs them twice as much as the Mac version, very strange. Looking otherwise at Adobes old software i think the future for them is not so bright, that maybe the reason for their decision. They have very old and way to big software, just compare PS4 with PS7, PS4 is way faster and worst of all PS7 has not that many new and useful features so one needs to upgrade. And since premiere becomes more and more a copy of FCP they obviously have to drop Mac support, so Adobe is now only making Final Cut Pro for windows, thats all. Sad to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethace Posted July 13, 2003 Author Share Posted July 13, 2003 I do agree totally with your comments about Photoshop, and i would never use PS 6.0 or 7.0. Far too much bloat - it is no wonder people are going over to Linux and GIMP for that stuff now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingo Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Youre right about Gimp, just wait and see what happens when CinePaint is available native for OS X, so no need for a complex installation like it is now under Apple's X11. I guess a lot of people will try this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 i tried gimp/cinepaint for windows. it's a horrible app IMHO. i think it was designed by programmers/tech geeks without the artist/user in mind. open source applications are great and important, but this one is a pain to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_A Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Market economics in action, in these tight times Adobe is backing out of a niche they don't see positive growth (or dominance) in. Apple alone blankets the user spectrum with iMovie (free), FinalCut Express ($299), and FinalCut Pro ($999) covering the cost/feature gammut. Case in point, Adobe doesn't appear to be ready to drop AfterEffects for the MacOS even though Apple offers Shake (at $4950). Adobe can still sell a couple copies of AE to the masses without feeling pressure of Shake from the highend. Now if Apple introduced a less expensive variant (ie. Shake Express) who knows, but I wouldn't expect that in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_A Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 "Trade in Premiere for a Free Copy of Final Cut Express or Upgrade to Emmy-Award Winning Final Cut Pro 4 for Half Price" Apple Offers Premiere Users Easy Switch to Final Cut Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethace Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 It is all strange because Lightwave, FormZ, Maya and many good softwares are ported to the MAC now, no problems - yet their traditional ground, being Adobe is going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 Originally posted by garethace: It is all strange because Lightwave, FormZ, Maya and many good softwares are ported to the MAC now, no problems - yet their traditional ground, being Adobe is going! formz existed on mac for several years before it was ported over to windows. it was in version 3.# when it first became available on windows. several things about formz are still mac in nature. they are just now (version 4) taking advantage of multi-button mice, and scroll wheels. i don't think adobe will abandon mac, to many graphic designers that are mac faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethace Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 I first learned FormZ, MiniCAD 7.0 and photoshop 4.0 myself on the MAC. I still count these softwares as some of the best to use for architects, in spite of the array of programmes out there now. I love the way that FormZ and Minicad still 'fly' on even the simplest little notebook system, and i have always been thoroughly impressed with my copy of either for windows. I hated the way VIZ stucked dead donkeys you know whats, on circa 1998/9/2000 INtel hardware, even though it is less problematic nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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