John Dollus Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Hey: I went through some of the submissions and one in particular looked very familiar. I recently received a resume with samples attached that match one exactly! After looking back through the CGArchitect gallery, I noticed several images from different people all included in this same PDF resume. 1. If it was your image, would you want to know? 2. What would you do if you stumbled across this situation? fyi, this person backed out of the interview due to 'job location'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Johnson Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 You should talk with that person privately, one and one and show them the error of their ways. Hopefully they will repent of such ill behavior, and you will have been instrumental in helping someone walk a straighter path in life. But don't ignore it. If they persist and or deny it, or show no remorse, then let other CG studio's know for sure. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Well John, you've said A...time to say B! I suggest you just put the whole thing, including the pdf-file, online because this is an outrage from a very sad person (not you but the wannabe with the stolen pics). It's theft, the opposit of style and a couple more things I do not mention here. Grab someones artwork and submitting for a contest like this is a jolly good sample of insanity. I know a rather great 'job location' for the fellow! Go on and upload it all, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otacon Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I agree. You cant let stuff like this go unnoticed, post it so the artists can see if there work was stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbr Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I'd contact him and confront him about it. It'd be a horrible situation if it turned out that he actually had some part to do with the image. I hire out for modeling sometimes, and have no problem with other displaying the final renderings, as long as if they were to interview they acknowledge that (that's more for their own conscience, as I don't really need to know). Maybe he built a rock that was used, who knows. But give him one chance to come clean, then bring the wrath done upon him if he does not give a reasonable explanation. I was reviewing a site for a company (I'll leave there names out of this) and I saw a part of an animation that someone posted here about a year ago (that I still have). Superb work, at both firms, but the latter is in China. All I can assume is that some, or all, of the work was outsourced. Therefore, they both have the piece in their showreels. Nothing unethical about that. If you look at the motion graphic world, this happens ALL the time. Firms outsource to freelancers regularly and they all take claim to the work in their showreels. Lotsa gray areas, but I think it's worth confronting him and finding out what the truth is before ruining the guys name (which could happen quickly on these boards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dollus Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Well, I can say with certainty that the work he submitted does not belong to him in any way. I think the artist's who rightfully created the work deserve the credit (the work is really very good). I really can't understand why someone would do such a thing at this level. It would be painfully obvious that the person could not replicate the work once hired. They are only doing themselves in. There have been cases in the past where 'companies' have misrepresented themselves and we have posted them here to be informed but this is an individual and would largely go without notice if someone wasn't aware of this site. Well, some of the work belongs to members here and I will email them privately since I would want to know if the situation was reversed. The works are their property after all and the artist's can decide what action they want to take individually. After seeing some of the posts by at least one of the rightful owners, I have a feeling he will be more merciless than I. I also wanted to add that the images had been swiped from the main cgarchitect gallery and not the contest section - Not that it matters, just clarifying. MBR: I'll send him an email on Monday but I really don't expect much. One of the images he used was posted by a student in the gallery and one was also included as a submission image for the competition by an individual in the finals so I don't see how this can be much of an outsourcing issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Well, I can say with certainty that the work he submitted does not belong to him in any way. While I assume Jeff Mottle will read this, you should report the situation to him anyway. The thief isn't one of the '30' is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 John, Please email me at jmottle@cgarchitect.com This happens more times than you might think. Since the site has been up probably over a dozen times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maranello55 Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Its an outrage....totally from someone who is stupid enough to think that no one is watching..... I dont think so one of them is in the '30' ?? The wont slip in that easily around here that i can be sure!! Burn him at stake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I believe John said the work was stolen for a CV portfolio, not for the contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I believe John said the work was stolen for a CV portfolio, not for the contest. Perhaps so. I went through some of the submissions and one in particular looked very familiar. I took that to mean 'contest submissions' but it could just as easily have been a gallery submission. I suppose I just have a case of 'contest' on the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Perhaps so. I took that to mean 'contest submissions' but it could just as easily have been a gallery submission. I suppose I just have a case of 'contest' on the brain. I think he meant that one of the stolen images was submitted by its real creator into the competition. I've gotten emails from people who have seen my work in online portfolios for companies in Turkey and Romania. I bet their software is stolen too. All I can really do is wish them a bad case of hemorhoids. They were copied from the nPower site. Two years ago, they might have been considered worth stealling, but nowadays there is much better work from others out there for the picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dollus Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 'I think he meant that one of the stolen images was submitted by its real creator into the competition.' Exactly. I'll take this offline and email Jeff about it tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for their input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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