Difference between inspiron 9300 & precision m70

[Weider]

I just want to know that,

 

Dell Inspiron 9300 or XPS Gen 2

Dell Precision M70

 

 

I saw here M70 is a workstation, but there is only 1 precessor in it right?

THe thing I see is 9300 got a 6800 geforce 256mbs and m70 QuadroMC Go1400 256MB OpenGL.

 

thanks for your help, I'm looking for a laptop, the new ZD 8000 from HP looks really cool too. I'm from Canada, so I have to forget Sager, Alienware, BoXX.

[3dp]

i use a m60 just now and will upgrade to a m70 later this year

i did a lot of research last year into laptops bottom line the dell came out with all the boxes ticked

it's used everyday docked and mobile runs max acad photoshop premiere and alais studio true it's not twin processor but then waht notebook is and why would you want to use one as the main rendernode??

only thing to die was a battery which was replaced in 2 days

they may nt be the coolest on the block when going up against vaio's but they work and work hard

check ebay perhaps and pickup a deal on a m60 lower spec but big savings to be had if you get the right deal

[Weider]

right now, I have an old Ahtlon 1700+ with 64 megs for the video. So the new computer I'll have will be used as my "master" computer. It's why I want to have something good. Since I bought my old computer (3-4 years ago), I really hate to have only 1 place where I could work. I had to bring my computer at school, so at home I can't work.

 

You think VAIO are more powerful than Dell laptops?.

I want to buy one for something like 2500-3000$ can.

[Elliot]

Hello,

 

I am not very familiar with the computers you are mentioning on the forum. Perhaps my comments could give you some clarification.

 

One month ago I purchased a Dell XPS 3.4ghz, 1gb ram, 256mb video card ATI 9800 and many other goodies. The makers of OfficeFX prefer this video card. The computer was $3,179.00 after a $500.00 instant cash discount.

 

This machine is sluggish. The display is pretty, It is noisy, it is heavy, the power supply is 2 pounds, the machine is ugly and the keyboard is not very ergonomic. Dell duplicated the order. I returned the second machine the next day I am still wating for the refund.

 

Dell doesn't care about their customers..... and my list keeps getting bigger....

 

There was a specific reason for me to buy the machine. With my Power Point I use a plug-in called OfficeFX that requires a good video card. The presentations out of the computer are goergeous. However, CAD work on this machine is slow.

 

I definitely will never again in my life buy from Dell Computers.

 

Good Luck

Elliot

[3dp]

true you can get "death by dell" and the quality of some machines can be a little iffy

i have besides the m60 a precision 650 with a quadro 3000 card on board i use as the main workstation both it must be said were "as new" dell returns with the balance of warranty etc

both have been solid aside from the battery

 

if you plan on using the laptop for 3d with open gl i'd say go with dell as is has the quadro built in vaio do not but you could always get one later it's and if image is important then vaio look sexy and pull the chicks (ha!)

 

as i said i'm using it to model.edit.photoshop.and the odd render when outabout and realtime with rtre it works it's fast and only a dell m70 would be faster

 

btw back when i was looking the only comparable machine came from fujitsu and alienware and fujitsu are about to relaunch that model - can't recall it but it had a detachable keyboard for cool points and alien with a sexy case is aimed at gamers so where is your docking stations stands how many usbs bluetooth wifi infrared ports etc plus battery life and all the cd/dvd/floppy/card combos (i use it with a sony p910i so i can really work anywhere - within reason)

 

it all depends on what you want what i have is a laptop that is a workstation

i can and do work remote maybe 2-3 times a week it's paid for itself many times over i mean i can now sit downstairs watch mtv/extreme sports and sit in the armchair and still pull big $$££ doing work

when it comes to render time i use the farm

hope that helps

[mbr]

Keep in mind Elliott is talking about the XPS, not the XPS 2 which is the current one with the good graphics, good screen, and nice design (sorry Elliott).

 

Personally, and this is just from workstation comparisons, I don't think the quadros off that big of a performance for Max, if any at all, so that issue is mute, imho. Someone where I am working just got the M70 because of the Quadro and Gelato potential. I personally am not holding my breath about Gelato - I'll believe it when I see it.

 

So I'd go with the 9300 or XPS 2, just make sure you get the better screen for the 9300. Both are pretty nice designs. I'd love the XPS disegn if I could cover up the 'XPS', but it's still pretty nice. I plan to get one in the coming months, oh, look at http://www.techbargains.com, they had 35% sales on the Inspirons. Think it expired yesterday, but they have them all the time.

 

Sony's screen is really, really nice, but their graphic cards suck. Look closely, last time I did they only came with an old 64mb card (look at the card type, too, there are several mobile ones).

[Weider]

thanks, that help me a lot. just a quick question I was looking at the Toshiba Tetra A4 that comes with a X600 video card, but it looks like only a 64mb video card. X600 can be with 64megs only? I thought it comes only with 256mb.

[Weider]

Because today I saw:

 

Toshiba Tecra A4

 

Graphics Controller

 

ATI Mobility Radeon X600

Video Memory: 64 MB DDR memory

PCI Express 16

2D and 3D Graphics

 

 

But according to Ati Radeon's Website

 

128-bit memory interface supporting 128MB or 256MB DDR1 memory configurations

[Elliot]

Markus,

 

The problems with Dell are more serious than just a decision between two different Dell's models. The problem is that it is an American company were nobody speaks English. All their phones are answered from overseas. I spent two weeks trying to get them to accept my credit card. During those two weeks I spoke with the Phillipines, India and Panama.

 

I speak Spanish fluently, I couldn't even make sense out of the Panamian call center. It really was a humulliating experience. I want nothing to do with Dell. There has to be something better than dealing with Dell.

 

Upon looking at their web site while tracking my order I discovered they had duplicated my order. I called them and warned them about the duplication. They said there was nothing they could do. They said their center was too big for them to go a find the duplicates. They said we will let them go out and just return the duplicate to us. Which I did 4 weeks ago and still no refund to my bank. I have contacted an attorney....! It is just matter of principles....! Upon returning the duplicate laptop, I found two other guys doing the same. One of their customer service guys told me off the record, that order duplications is very common among the young sales people trying to get commisions. I believed that story from the way these young sales people treated me over the telephone.

 

The worst part is the computer is very sluggish..... And the case is quite ugly too. On the last business meeting I attended, people just started laughing upon seeing my leopard skin cover. I didn't odered it like that, I was chosen by them....!

 

I think that you are right about the XPS 2. Unfortunately I purchased this one as they were launching the new version. The whole purpose of this computer was to make our corporate presentation with an LCD projector. For the presentation the computer is just great. However, it is no good for CAD 3D stuff. The display on the laptop is simply great. My diasapointment it is just the overall throughput on the laptop and having to deal with DELL.

 

Good Luck

Elliot

 

PD:

My brother asked me two weeks ago "From which bar did you get that thing" Worst.... I dont even drink! He he he he Maybe placing a positive spin on the whole issue.... The leopard cover is just a focal point for the clients to really pay attention of what may come out from this box....He he he I wonder what they think will come out of a leopard case..... He he he

[bully712]

The problems with Dell are more serious than just a decision between two different Dell's models. The problem is that it is an American company were nobody speaks English. All their phones are answered from overseas. I spent two weeks trying to get them to accept my credit card. During those two weeks I spoke with the Phillipines, India and Panama.

 

I couldn't agree with you more with Dells customer care. I ordered a OS upgrade once, and they sent me an empty box.

 

Well I think my power supply might be going bad since my computer makes a funny noise when starting up, but my machine has been working fairly well. I have a Dell Dimension 8100, 1.4 GHZ, 1.5 GB Ram, 256 Nvidia Geforce. Viz runs pretty decently, and I have had Viz , Photoshop, and CAD all running at the same time with out it slowing down that much.

 

I was thinking about getting a notebook, and I was looking at the 9300. I think the only reason I'm looking at it is because I have credit at dell, + the 17" screen is pretty nice. I would like to purchase one for a couple of reasons: Mainly for internet, and when I travel. I would probably load photoshop, and possibly CAD, but not VIZ. I just don't see my self working efficiently in Viz on a labtop.

 

I've looked at the Sony's, but I think you're just paying for the name..

[Elliot]

Marc,

 

It has been a nightmare trying to work with DELL. This last winter I purchased two Sony's for the kids (I have 5 children). I don't like the Sony's either. They are very sluggish.

 

Good Luck

Elliot

[oluv]

by the way, what about this one?

 

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5871.html

 

this new fuijtsu siemens 4438 caught my eye.

 

it has wuxga and the screen seems to be very good. geforce go6800 with 265mb, and the clue is dual sata harddrive with raid0 or raid1 possibility, that kicks ass!

sure it is only centrino technology, but at least you can expect a battery-life of 2 hours.

it shall start at 1500,-€ which is really cheap compared to the dell-models! and above all it looks really cool! much better design than the clunky dells.