Ernest Burden III Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 New Autodesk website, huh? I was looking at the VIZ page over the weekend (yes, contemplating going to the dark side). But where is it today? new Autodesk site, product page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4221521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Mmmm...the dark side is even darker than we thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 i beg you m8, DONT DO IT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 i beg you m8, DONT DO IT!!!!! OK, see if YOU can talk ChaosGrp. into getting the C4D plug of vRay ready before we retire. I've got to earn a living NOW and Cinema isn't cutting it with its render engine. I'm most interested in using vRay, and right now the only way to do that would be to buy VIZ or MAX. I don't need all the extra stuff in MAX since I already have it in Cinema. So VIZ seems like the best way to go. Also, now that I own a competing product, I might get a better price from ADSK. When they killed Lightscape I was not eligible for any discounts. So WHY doesn't VIZ appear on the 'products' page of the new Autodesk/Discreet website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I tried my best to learn Viz4. Not that it's that difficult - it's just that it's such a resource pig. Took a good 30 seconds to load the program. Too spoiled by LightWave coming up in a couple of seconds. Back to rendering on LightWave now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 So WHY doesn't VIZ appear on the 'products' page of the new Autodesk/Discreet website? I know what you mean, Ernest. VRay looks to be a great solution. It's a shame they're not nearly as agressive as the Maxwell Render group seems to be. I'm an AutoCAD user so I'm used to going to http://www.autodesk.com. From there click on "Products". It's the last one listed at the bottom of the page (listed alphabetically). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Harbas Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 AUTODESK VIZ 2006 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4221521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I've got to earn a living NOW and Cinema isn't cutting it with its render engine. thats a real shame to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 thats a real shame to hear I highly suspect that Cinema 9.5 will have a revamped render engine that will make us all quite happy. But no-one can talk (NDAs). In the meantime I'm CONSIDERING using VIZ/vRAY. I'm not walking away from Cinema anytime soon. Anyway, STRAT, you use Max part of the time. I would just be following the leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Anyway, STRAT, you use Max part of the time. I would just be following the leader. ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! ur right, i do. but purely for modelling tricky bits that AutoCAD cant easily deal with. i prefer max/viz modelling to c4d, purely because i'm so much more used to it and proficient in it. i havent rendered in viz on nearly 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaPixel Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'm running both VIZ 2005 and MAX 7.1 at work and I can tell you there IS a difference in rendered output - both in speed and quality. I never use VIZ to render scanline as dumb as that seems. MAX has Light Tracer GI also Also, the subscription plan is a pretty good deal in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Style Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Back to the original query . . . VIZ was never on the "Discreet" website, only Max and GMax. So now it is still not considered part of "Autodesk Media and Entertainment". Even though it is just a light version of basically the exact program. For some reason Autodesk Media and Entertainment just doen't have the same cache of Discreet, for a company so worried about brand image I still don't get the name change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshenko Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'm running both VIZ 2005 and MAX 7.1 at work and I can tell you there IS a difference in rendered output - both in speed and quality. I never use VIZ to render scanline as dumb as that seems. MAX has Light Tracer GI also. I'm not trying to get into a shoving match here, but I would suspect that any differences you see are because of code base: Viz2005 is the same code base as Max6, not Max7.x. It might be a bit misleading to say that there are differences like this without comparing similar products. Ernest, my entire office uses Viz2005 for all of our projects, even animations (of which we do relatively few). I think Viz is a great product and has served us well for the past 4 years. It seems to have acquired a bad reputation for some reason - probably because of the previous release (Viz4) that attempted to overhaul the interface to appeal to beginner architects. Since that idea was shelved, Viz is pretty much the same as Max, sans sub-object animation capabilites, video post and particle systems (I'm not including render differences like Light Tracer because I don't think anyone really cares - and you're going to use VRay anyway ). If you don't need the latter - or find other ways to make them up - Viz is a great product at a more reasonable price than Max. Not that you were asking for a review or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abicalho Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 VIZ 2006 starts shipping today: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050419/sftu087.html?.v=7 The new features in VIZ 2006 (Adaptive Subdivision, Sweep, Scene State, Batch Render, etc) will be available in a few days for 3ds max 7 subscription users. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar lover Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 -It does exist! X-mas again ;-) Viz 2006 just arrived in my mailbox. Seems very good to me. Cant wait to explore the accuracy in MR3.3´s physical lighting. Big smile on my face! /Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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