Guest coupe333 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Hi, i was wondering which to choose, i mostly do Architectural visualizations, but i dont know if ,appart the animation, max 5 has something really good to justify the price difference? Thanks in Advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Ramsay Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 One of the big differences is that max has animatable parameters. It has better poly modeling tools than viz 4 and a lot of other cool stuff Get max5, I think viz could be on its way out to be honest. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconbauhaus Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 depends on how much you can afford. for most architectural work Viz is more than adequate and costs a third of max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunstraum.tv Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 i think for architects viz4 is "enough". the radiosiy engine in max5 is nearly the same as in viz4. altough i felt in love with the cool transform gizmos in max5 but that´s not really important... i think the price speaks for viz4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 MAX5 .. I think Mr VIZ is thinking about retirement and Mr MAX will do both jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 I am actually trying to resolve the same question. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade to Max from Viz. If this is true, then it seems logical to start with Viz, stick with it if is sufficient or upgrade if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 pro viz: (dead) - price - applyoffset() pro max: (alive) - video post - lighttracer - ... (= all the rest) rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar R Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 I think that both applications should be merged together in a new release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 yeap, it will make sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitect Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Well... I currently use both. VIZ for the architectural stuff, and MAX for the animation and non-arch modelling. It would be great to see only one app. but I've heard that MAX's structure can't handle architectural objects (i.e. walls) very well; but I think that if layers where possible in the last release, then the rest can fit in there as well. By the way... does anyone know a simpler way to make walls in MAX (script-plugin) so we don't use booleans to make window holes? (out of topic? ) [ January 20, 2003, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: arkitect ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dollus Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Viz will not go away anytime soon. The two products will come closer together and their development cycles will start to come inline to avoid the leapfrog situation they have now. The design extension is nothing new and it is only free if you pay maintenance (oops, I mean subscription). They provided the Designer's Pack for Max 3.1 years ago when Viz first developed it's own set of tools and Max users complained. I suggest you strat with Viz. Like you said, you can always upgrade to Max. If you time it right, you may actually end up paying less for Max than those you buy it outright. Discreet seems to be testing the waters lately with 'special' discount upgrade promotions. Take the money that would have gone towards Max and buy Combustion instead. John D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coupe333 Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 I think that there is a free extension package for max5 that has AEC support, walls etc.. Go to Point A. 3DS extension If this is true, Viz 4 is allready DED.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O+ Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 viz will never die..... from what I heard from some members of the viz development team, it seems as though it will become more of an 'accurender-esque' type program (no disrespect to accurender, it's an excellent program, and hopefully viz can shoot that way) emphasis on ease and quality of linking from cad programs (autocad specifically, and adt, and now revit), aec improvements, materials, photorealism etc. but keeping costs and functionality down to respectable numbers, and focusing on getting architects to implement viz into the workflow. It could be a great program with just a few (dozen) tweaks here and there... my two bits, ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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