karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Hello i've been surfing the web for how to properly do some composing (or compositing....don't know how to say it right) of rendered elemnts (vray 1.5 sp2 3dsmax 2009 desing) .....i wandered if some1 could give me a good tutorial on how to do it properly from a to z....like from whitch elemts to render and how to compose (composite lol) them in photoshop (mine is cs4)....i found that you can save them in OpenEXR file withh all elemtns in one file ....but photoshop cannot see them without this pugin called proEXR....i downloaded it, placed it in plugins directory and it just doesn't work....i don't know.....so please help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 i don't have a quick answer for a tutorial to guide you.... but for the proexr part, once you have their file placed in your "....photoshop/plug-ins/file formats folder" then just do an "open as" and set the file type to ProExr, instead of opening it as a regular exr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't know if proEXR is suportes in PS CS4 cause when i put it there.....i don't see any signs that PS understands cause......there are nothing in PS taht says proEXR.....i mean i caont open as an proEXR fiel.....i cannot exxport as an proEXR file....basiycly there's nothing.....nothing happens....so i'm bumed out basicly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 well well well ......i can see a huge bunch of ppl trying to help me with my problrm...thanx a lot fellas....i gues my problems should be my problem and nobodys else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Composite Breakdown for Vray (as posted by others)..... (Add) = Linear Dodge Vray Specular (Add) Vray Background (Add) Vray Self Illumination (Add) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Reflection (Multiply) ___Vray Refraction Filter (Normal) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Reflection (Multiply) ___Vray Reflection Filter (Normal) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Global Illumination (Multiply) ___Vray Diffuse Filter (Normal) Vray Raw Lighting (Multiply) Vray Diffuse Filter (Normal) Base of any scene, regardless of engine... Vray Self Illumination (Add) Vray Background (Add) Vray Refraction (Add) Vray Reflection (Add) Vray Global Illumination (Add) Vray Lighting (Normal) Making smart comments about whether or not someone comments on your post usually doesn't generate additional posts. Edited April 2, 2009 by Crazy Homeless Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 well well well ......i can see a huge bunch of ppl trying to help me with my problrm...thanx a lot fellas....i gues my problems should be my problem and nobodys else... Perhaps if you were to use proper sentences then people would be more likely to read your posts and be better able to understand the problem too. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Composite Breakdown for Vray (as posted by others)..... (Add) = Linear Dodge Vray Specular (Add) Vray Background (Add) Vray Self Illumination (Add) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Reflection (Multiply) Should this be Raw Refraction? Not Raw Reflection ___Vray Refraction Filter (Normal) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Reflection (Multiply) ___Vray Reflection Filter (Normal) GROUP (Add) ___Vray Raw Global Illumination (Multiply) ___Vray Diffuse Filter (Normal) Vray Raw Lighting (Multiply) Vray Diffuse Filter (Normal) Base of any scene, regardless of engine... Vray Self Illumination (Add) Vray Background (Add) Vray Refraction (Add) Vray Reflection (Add) Vray Global Illumination (Add) Vray Lighting (Normal) Making smart comments about whether or not someone comments on your post usually doesn't generate additional posts. Question Above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Question Above Yes, my typo. Raw Refraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Just checking. I tried the first set up and it looked totally wrong lol. This makes much more sense. Thanks for tips. I wondered what the proper method was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 You may want to add the VRaySpecular channel if doing the basic composite also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karolisbilz@yahoo.com Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 wow..... now that's more like it! THANK YOU VERY MUCH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 CHG, Thanks for that extremely helpful list. Im trying to get ProEXR to work in Photoshop CS4 Extended. No luck at all. Ive put the plugin into various places, no option to open/import .exr files anywhere! Cant seem to find a workflow for getting .exr passes into P/shop. Ive upgraded from CS1, so I dont have the luxury of knowing how it worked in CS3 (which is the version listed on the ProEXR website) Any help much appreciated, Im really pulling my hair out over this one! Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 CHG, Thanks for that extremely helpful list. Im trying to get ProEXR to work in Photoshop CS4 Extended. No luck at all. Ive put the plugin into various places, no option to open/import .exr files anywhere! Cant seem to find a workflow for getting .exr passes into P/shop. Ive upgraded from CS1, so I dont have the luxury of knowing how it worked in CS3 (which is the version listed on the ProEXR website) Any help much appreciated, Im really pulling my hair out over this one! Tom. I got all of that information off a detailed thread on the Vray forum. If I have a chance this weekend, i will try to find the link to it, and post it. It is at least a year old. Or the original post is at least a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Im trying to get ProEXR to work in Photoshop CS4 Extended. No luck at all. Ive put the plugin into various places, no option to open/import .exr files anywhere! Have you looked in the 'automate' list? That's how some import filters work in PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The ProEXR plugin is just a replacement for Photoshop's own OpenEXR file format, not a filter or anything. All you need do, in CS3 at least, is to put the ProEXR plugin into the 'plugins/file formats' folder then disable the original OpenEXR plugin by changing the file extension from .8BI to something else. Then when you open an exr file it will use the ProEXR format and give you various import options. If you want a multi-channel exr file to try you can get one here: http://www.fnordware.com/OpenEXR/x35_3a.exr It does only mention compatibility with CS3 on the fnord site though so I'm not sure if it works with CS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I will be so pissed off if it doesnt work in CS4. Thats the express reason I bought it. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinsley Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Tommy... any luck on figuring this out? Compatible with CS4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Apparently in 32bit its OK, but I havent tried it. I only have 64 installed at the moment, they say its coming soon for 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourpickles Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 In my 3d World I believe last month they had a nice how to on compositing a hall way visualization. Made me realize I have no idea what I'm doing. I know the basic render layers, diffuse, shadows, reflections....and so on.... I've seen so many and heard of so many ways to do this. Guess what I'm saying is there seems to be no real wrong or right way? I heard that it's best to do as much as possible in the actual 3d program. Reflections and such and to make the final composite more of a tweaking? That's where and when you'd add people, maybe more plants and such. Does that sound about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Thomas Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 In my 3d World I believe last month they had a nice how to on compositing a hall way visualization. Made me realize I have no idea what I'm doing. I know the basic render layers, diffuse, shadows, reflections....and so on.... I've seen so many and heard of so many ways to do this. Guess what I'm saying is there seems to be no real wrong or right way? I heard that it's best to do as much as possible in the actual 3d program. Reflections and such and to make the final composite more of a tweaking? That's where and when you'd add people, maybe more plants and such. Does that sound about right? There is most definitely a right and wrong way when it comes to reassembling the elements in the correct manner and with the correct blending modes. Especially when you get into premultiplied alphas etc. You are right though that you can choose to use a few or a lot of elements depending on which ones you need to adjust. If you want the best explanation of compositing render elements this Gnomon dvd covers it all and explains in great detail the pitfalls. http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/431/Multi-Pass-Compositing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourpickles Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Looks worth the 80. I've been on that site lots of times and never seen that title for some strange reason. Can't go wrong with anything or any one from Blur giving you advice or tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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