Come on Everyone - We need 3D Awards Submissions!

[Jeff Mottle]

We are only 2 weeks away from the submission deadline and as of the posting of this message, there are less than 10 animations, under 100 images and 5 realtime submissions. Needless to say, if the submissions don't increase ASAP, there is a very serious risk of having to cancel the 3D awards, which will also mean canceling the awards ceremony and film festival at Mundos Digitales. If that happens, this WILL be the last year for the 3D awards. If you have work SUBMIT IT!

 

If you know of anyone that you think has work worthy of the 3d awards, please contact them and let them know about the awards. Please pass the word around to as many people as you can.

 

 

http://www.cgarchitect.com/3dawards

Edited May 16, 2010 by Jeff Mottle

[japi]

I really think that the major slowdown of the bussiness could have a great impact over the number of submissions.

 

For example in our office we have more projects of civilworks than regular architecture, and the archviz projects has so much less budget in this year, so we can't spend so much time in there. Less projects with less money implies less quality, and if one project has not too much quality that is not suitable to be presented here.

 

Anyway we would use the 3D Awards to present two new technologies used in a pair of RealTime projects.

 

It really would be a shame that 3D Awards could dissapear.

 

Best regards, Víctor.

[neil poppleton]

Submitted 5 images today.

[TrondGreve]

I am just thinking out loud here.....but can it be that maybe the professionals feel that there is little point in submitting still images if you compete against work that does not have to take clients into account?

 

I mean: Many of the best images from 2009 looked like they were produced without clients, budgets or timeframe.

(For instance the Redvertex grass/leaf image, Alessandro Prodans Mies van der Rohe building, the Eiffel Tower image, Meduzart image, Squint Opera etc)

 

Ofcourse I am not sure that the images are produced without a client....but i feel like the basis of the profession is to communicate architecture on behalf of someone, not just to make beautiful images. And right now, that feels like the basis atleast for the still category in the awards.

[BVI]

Ofcourse I am not sure that the images are produced without a client....but i feel like the basis of the profession is to communicate architecture on behalf of someone, not just to make beautiful images. And right now, that feels like the basis atleast for the still category in the awards.

 

Hey Trond, I agree to a point; some of the last submissions were odd, beautiful and amazing 3Ds, but rather odd (I think 3D guys do a lot of drugs We are submitting a few images later this week. Thanks Jeff for doing these exercises.

[braddewald]

I am just thinking out loud here.....but can it be that maybe the professionals feel that there is little point in submitting still images if you compete against work that does not have to take clients into account?

 

I mean: Many of the best images from 2009 looked like they were produced without clients, budgets or timeframe.

(For instance the Redvertex grass/leaf image, Alessandro Prodans Mies van der Rohe building, the Eiffel Tower image, Meduzart image, Squint Opera etc)

 

This is the one and only reason that I will not be submitting any images this year. (that and the blow to my ego that I incurred upon leaving Ronen's competition without so much as an honorable mention after spending the better part of a month on my image)

[ihabkal]

I am just thinking out loud here.....but can it be that maybe the professionals feel that there is little point in submitting still images if you compete against work that does not have to take clients into account?

 

I mean: Many of the best images from 2009 looked like they were produced without clients, budgets or timeframe.

(For instance the Redvertex grass/leaf image, Alessandro Prodans Mies van der Rohe building, the Eiffel Tower image, Meduzart image, Squint Opera etc)

 

Ofcourse I am not sure that the images are produced without a client....but i feel like the basis of the profession is to communicate architecture on behalf of someone, not just to make beautiful images. And right now, that feels like the basis atleast for the still category in the awards.

 

I completely agree with you. Me and a lot others posted last year that the renderings (well many of them) should be 1st place winners in not architectural categories.

[Matt McDonald]

I'll post an animation that I worked on. It might not win but I'm proud of it. I just need to get the watermark yanked off.

 

I do think there are some good points about commissioned work versus non commissioned. Maybe there is room to make some revisions to the rules in the future.

[Justin Hunt]

I tend to disdagree that "personal" work should not be submitted. Seeing that they have a big influence on commissed work, even if its is watered down. The Fansworth Houseimages (amongst others) have done wonders for foliage renders and have become the benchmark. Personal works are where we can experiment and push ourselves. As a direct result our professional works become better, raising the standard of the whole industry.

 

jhv

[mahorela]

I agree that some of last years entries were questionable as to whether they are archviz, especially some of the animations. But personal work should be allowed, in a lot of cases, where famous architecture isn't used, nobody could tell the work wasn't commercial anyhow.

[Jeff Mottle]

I don't agree with this professional vs personal argument at all, which seems to come up every year. Arch Viz is the visualization of architecture. full stop. There is no rule that says it has to be done for a client, done for an architect or real-estate developer etc. In most cases I think it's a cope out to say that "my client doesn't allow me to be creative" Either your creative or your not. A true artist can make a bad project or client look good. Yes there are varying levels of good, but who or how the work is done is completely irrelevant. I think it would be a complete waste of time, and absolutely uninspiring to hold a competition to reward mediocre work just becuase that's that what the average person in this industry creates. Holding an industry award is about finding work that inspires the industry to make their own work better and to raise the creative and artistic bar.

 

Should the Oscars prevent Hollywood blockbusters from being eligible because their budgets were higher? Or prevent art films becuase they are not main stream enough? Sorry guys, but these comments are incredibly demotivating. I spend thousands of dollars every year to hold these awards, not to mention the hundreds of hours involved. Based on the lack of entries and the lack of desire to feature the best work (not the best mediochre work), I honestly don't see much of a future for these awards.

 

I just don't get it...

[Jeff Mottle]

To everyone who is submitting work, we've seen a small increase in submission volumes the last few days, thank you!

[Justin Hunt]

Totally agree with you Jeff, alot of the comments come across as sour grapes and a bit petty.

 

Personally the only imahe from the past year that I deem worthy is what I am working on right now, I am just hoping that I can get it finished in time to submit. Not that its in anyway good enough to make the first round of eliminations.

 

jhv

[mahorela]

It would be a real shame if these awards did not continue. They are a massive source of inspiration to me every year. I have posted my latest and greatest. I think that people should show more gratitude and enthusiasm. At the end of the day, even if the big bad GFC has made things quiet, there should be a lot more personal work floating around.

[ihabkal]

I submitted an animation too but I don't know if it got fully uploaded, 227 MB.

You're missing the point, we are NOT criticising personal work. we are criticizing that the subjects like the Eiffel tower coming alive with tentacles rendering are too artsy for being realistic architectural renderings. or two people fishing out of an appartment that is in ruin. what's next, spaceships shooting lazers in a giant house room to room?

[Justin Hunt]

if its got a building, why not? Some images operate at a metaphoric level and are much more powerful in doing so. Take a look at images done by Morphosis, totally abstract, quite ugly in some instances but very powerful and artsy.

 

At the same time Iv'e seen many realistic images that convey no message other than this is a lounge with a couch. Technically very good but emotionally dead.

 

If the space ships support the message, use them. It could be quite good in fact.

 

jhv

[mahorela]

I think were talking about two different arguments here. One is whether personal work should be able to be submitted. Stuff like Alex Roman and Alessandro Prodan to name a couple of high profile artists that do personal work. I just took part in a rendering competition and submitted images I produced for that, which would also be classed as personal work. I'm with Jeff and Justin, I don't see the argument here, whether you get paid for it or not it's still architectural visualisation and the awards would be very dull without it.

 

The second argument is that there is a question mark over some entries as to whether they are archvis or not. I remember some of last years entries were extremely abstract. One that comes to mind is the animation with the car from Crystal CG and the dragons etc. I remember questioning whether that was a archvis or was it just a sweet piece of animation that had a few buildings in it somewhere. I can see both sides of this one.

[BVI]

Hi Jeff - I havent seen the call for entries on evermotion.org or cgtalk.com Thanks again for these competitions and events, you are a bastian for the CG arch community.

[Jeff Mottle]

I think it's the same argument really as the answer is the same for both. If it has arch viz then its admissible. Don't forget that it's not one person who is deciding what becomes nominated. Last year we had 12 top industry professionals from some of the top studios in the world as judges AND there was also a public vote. All of these arguments are moot point as it was the industry who picked them. If the industry, thinks that King Kong (another entry with drama from a few years back), and an Eiffel tower with an artistic edge should not have been considered then they would not have been nominated.

[Jeff Mottle]

I submitted an animation too but I don't know if it got fully uploaded, 227 MB.

 

Hi Ihab, it didn't. I just sent you an email with alternate submission details.

 

Cheers,

Jeff

[Tommy L]

I agree that the argument about personal vs pro work is redundant. But on the other hand I was a bit bemused to see King Kong involved...

I shall be submitting an image or two. Havent done much arch-vis in the last year though.

Jeff, doesnt this happen every year? Low submitting rate and then a flurry of entries near the deadline?

[Jeff Mottle]

Jeff, doesnt this happen every year? Low submitting rate and then a flurry of entries near the deadline?

 

It does, but never entries this low. I've received a lot more image submissions in the last few days, but still very few animations and real-time submissions.

[CJI]

Come on people, these awards are the best outlet for our industry where we can get international recognition for the work that we do and love. I for one have been constantly inspired and refreshed by the work that is produced for these awards. Like Jeff said when the majority of work is at a fairly average level we need these artistic, high profile pieces to give us all a benchmark to move towards.

We all need to constantly improve and these awards are something for us all to aim towards. Unfortunatly my work falls in to the the fairly average bracket at the moment, having not long finished university I am currently exploring and growing my techniques so that my work can one day (soon hopefully) stand amongst the greatest in these competitions. But this is only an excuse for me, if i had paid attention to the date and pulled my finger out i could have created something and i for one am dissapointed in myself for not doing more.

 

Without the CGarchitect awards our industry would be a much hollower experience, we NEED these awards to push our creativity. And if these fold, we would all be worse off and we would only have ourselves to blame. I really hope there is a wee creative convent of folk out there squirelling away with there competition entry .

 

Jeffs right about the Validity of all the artworks. Where does it say ArchVis is so stringently literal, are we not supposed to be creative and have fun. The reason these works are selected is BECAUSE they are different and break the bounderies. I for one welcome all the weird and wonderful creations, anything but go back to single path linear walkthroughs!

 

If anyone has anything remotely impressive, please have a shot, you never know what could happen. You have to be in it to win it as they say.

 

Jeff your continued hard work never fails to impress me and without your hard work in the industry creating an outlet for us all both in CGarchitect and the awards many of us would not be where we are, and the industry as a whole would be a far quiter place. I salute you.

 

I hope that wasn't too soap boxy, I just think it would be a travesty if these awards weren't to happen anymore. Hope i didn't offend anyone.

[Brian O'Hanlon]

I wish you well people, for what it is worth. I imagine these things are cyclical - obviously the CG Architect community is going through a phase, where a lot of members are at a certain age etc. On a positive note though, I reckon that CG Architect does continue to attract a lot of new members. I noticed a distinct widening of specialisation and depth of content here, since I remember it in the old days in 2003. Wow! Long time ago.

 

I am getting used to the new interface here too on the forums. It is much more 'busy' than the old interface. What is the forum running on these days Jeff? Vbulletin or something? Is there a specific place on the forum, where it is best to send back feedback and suggestions?

[Jeff Mottle]

I am getting used to the new interface here too on the forums. It is much more 'busy' than the old interface. What is the forum running on these days Jeff? Vbulletin or something? Is there a specific place on the forum, where it is best to send back feedback and suggestions?

 

The forums are still running on vBulletin. I just upgraded from their version 3 series to version 4 which brought a lot of changes in functionality and design. I prefer not to alter the default template too much as it makes upgrading a nightmare. Any comments or feedback on the forums can be posted here: http://forums.cgarchitect.com/40-comments-feedback/