RyderSK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 It does look promising, we're currently using mix of tools, but it is bit troublesome. How heavy can it go ? Our trees need to be in range upwards of 20+ million poly per each (leaves are between 4-9 poly per each, opacity mapped, but need for custom model). I am willing to pay for good tool, a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hris Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The most heavy tree which i prepared with Atree had a 5 000 000 polys (leaves has 6 polys). In this case Atree3D has prepared one tree in 8-9 minutes. In most cases my trees made with Atree are rather not so heavy - 1 000 000 to 1 500 000 polys. Kind regards Krzysztof Czerwinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 10 minutes to generate or whole creation process ? :- O It takes us 5 full days of work (about 30 hours) to create complete, high-end tree with GrowFx, but even then I am not fully satisfied, it has a lot of shortcomings. This does look promising a lot, magic is in simplicity. Onyx is cool, but unstable and outdated, and also impossible to create realistic trees in 20-30 metres height range. I like your Oak a lot, while not really realistic in composition and branches, the leaf distribiution is natural and flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanas Bakardzhiev Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Hi everyone, new version 1.12 of ATree3D script is available here. New in this version: - Fix open and save trees (*.at3d files) in 3ds Max 2013. - Fix pick new mesh function for leaves. To upload your trees to 3dtreexchange.net select Contribute from main menu of the website and follow the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hris Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I suppose that i said something wrong:) 10 minutes - it's time for CONSTRUCT trees - since push CREATE button to final mesh tree is ready. Preparing trees (looking for good tree shape from reference photos, preparing shape of trunk and branches , modelling leaves, preparing textures) is taking me 2-3 days. I suppose that preparing ONE tree from scratch to final mesh is taking 20-24 hours in Atree3D. The only problem which i'm actually trying to solve is that shape of branches is the same. That's a structure of ATree3D plants: Level 01 - Trunk = you have to paint it or modify points by moving points of spline Level 02 - First Branches which are "connected" to trunk = you have to paint it or modify points by moving points of spline, and EVERY branch in this level has the same SHAPE but rotated and moved around trunk. Level 03 - Second Branches which are connected to LEVEL 02 branches - you have to define NEW shape of branch. And now EVERY branch at this level has the same shape but is rotated and moved around LEVEL 02 branch... Level 04 - Third branches.... - similar to Level 03. Summary: To prepare real-lookin trees i have spend a lot of time to prepare all these setting in best possible way, and time to time i'm creating TWO trees in the same position - but second tree has no TRUNK, only other branches (with other shape and scale settings). Atree3D i actually most powerfull FREE plant tool (time to time it's better than Grow Fx or Onyx) - and probably one of the best script made for 3D Max ever. Try to get some of my AT3D settings files for AT3D script which i shared here (Oak is there too with textures:)) : http://3dtreexchange.net/?p=480 Kind regards and full respect fo Your hard work Krzysztof Czerwinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Very kind ! I'll check that, thanks :- ) I'll share my results too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hris Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 If You need some absolutely top HQ 2D cutout plants (alpha masked) - please try my plants and trees which i prepared for CGTEXTURES.COM. All of them are totally for FREE to commercial use. I cutted out every tree and plant by hand masking and lasso selection. There is NO WHITE or CYAN edges, and resolution is almost always close to 2000 pixels width or height. First you have to register for free to cgtextures for free and next you'll be able to download 15 MB textures per 24 hours (you can buy better account if you want download more per 24 h). I'm using cgtextures since 2008. THere is over 100 trees and plants with ALPHA masks prepared by me. Enjoy:) Here you have example of quality my trees (available at cgtextures.com). Here we go dear friends: Greetings Krzysztof Czerwinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have paid account :- ) best repository ever. Though I prefer to build full 3D scenes whenever possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannes Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I've played only a little bit with this plugin yet but I think it deserves a lot more love. The tree sharing site is just waiting to become popular if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampadsahoo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hi i am also a 3d graphics designer looking forward to have some assistance from this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanas Bakardzhiev Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 A short demo how to use multiple trunks as custom main brunches: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebart Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the new update, I've just recently been using ATree3d to make various branches which im attaching to a custom made trunk for trees used in the foreground of a scene. So im using it in a bit of a different way but its been very useful nonetheless. I've rendered the branches to texture and then applied the texture to planes, the planes represent the branches in the veiwport. I've then aligned the planes with a vrayproxy of the Atree3d generated model and grouped them individually as shown in the image below. The planes only render in the veiwport and give me a pretty good indication of the volume of foliage without affecting viewport performance. Im just wondering if it would be possible to use the branch proxies in place of leaves in the script?, pretty much in the same way as the low poly gum trees i posted earlier on in this thread. Maybe the tree could be generated just using the low poly representations of the branches and then swapped out later with their corresponding vrayproxy?. Would it be possible to allow "groups" to be used aswell as editable meshes/polys for leaves and have the script still preserve the objects inside the group?. This could be a good way of generating very large, highly detailed trees, without affecting veiwport performance too much, while also giving a decent preview of the rendered product in the veiwport. Edited December 11, 2012 by mikebart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanas Bakardzhiev Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Using proxies and other 3ds max objects as leaves is in my TODO list, but in current version it's not possible. I never tough about groups of object as leaves ... It's possible but I'm not sure haw difficult Group of plane for viewport and a proxy for render is interesting approach and should be very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 iv been looking for years for good looking eucalyptus trees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebart Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 iv been looking for years for good looking eucalyptus trees! will hopefully have something ready next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysean Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) I have download ATree3D but i am having problem to install it. Its MSE file. Can any one help me how i can install it?? signage solutions melbourne Edited December 29, 2012 by jaysean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanas Bakardzhiev Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) Quick launch: Download and unzip in a folder From 3ds Max menu select: MaxScript> Run Script ...>Run_ATree3D.mse Video - how to install the script: Edited December 27, 2012 by atanasbak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atanas Bakardzhiev Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 New version 1.20 of the script: Option to set UV map tile for branches and trunks. (Thanks to YANN for original idea)Option to set volume for the tree branches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaearif Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nice share, I wil try it. Thanks. As many of you we searched for cost effective tool for 3d trees and plants. There are many good plugins, programs and tree collections but nothing was exactly what we needed. We wanted a tool that work inside the 3ds max window, with not too many and complex parameters, precise control over each element and polygon count, a scalable solution for our different scenes and projects. At the end we decide to develop our own solution - ATree3D. ATree3D was design as easy to use, powerful tool for creating 3d plants for architectural visualization. It's free and you can download it and learn more about it from this page. Try it and let us know what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meherthakker Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 its a very nice plugin .. thank you so much !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hris Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I've released on my blog next little pack of free 3D models of trees. This time you can download some common trees ready to use in private and commercial projects: http://trzyde.blogspot.com Kind regards Krzysztof Czerwinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolastoubia Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Is it possible to "bake" the Atree3D tree then export it to another scene without loang it's materials... Everytime I try to load a poly version of it, it comes inn black with no materials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I've released on my blog next little pack of free 3D models of trees. This time you can download some common trees ready to use in private and commercial projects: [ATTACH=CONFIG]49306[/ATTACH] http://trzyde.blogspot.com Kind regards Krzysztof Czerwinski Chris, super thanks ! You need to get some better marketing going on since I didn't even knew you published this. Atleast let some blogger know :- D Great job on those trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hris Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Juraj -hm i'm not using facebook, and probably that's the reason why my marketing i really poor. Few infos about my blog you can find at http://www.ronenbekerman.com/ in freebies section, http://www.cgrecord.net/ and xoio.de. Actually i have no time to make marketing - i have to pay bills and i have to make everything if i and my family want to make better live:) Time to time i have few hours at night to prepare some freebies, but in last weeks i have no chance to do it. Actually i have almost done a lavender 3D model done in ATree3D but i have not time to finish it and prepare to share at my blog. If you want more my 3D Trees check a VIZ-PEOPLE.COM and their FREE STUFF section. I made for them 18 birch trees in high quality - models and textures:) Maybe in next few weeks i'll be able to put some new stuff on my blog - superb nice skies with perfect puffy cloud (3800x2500 px). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderSK Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I understand the little time, I too made promise to myself to share some quality models atleast every second week, but I am just too busy to follow even my own rules... I used the birches already, they're damn nice too :- ) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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