ankit4d Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hello Friends, I want to make this render more photo realistic. Your C& C are welcome. Regards, Ankit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 what do you think needs to be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Thanks for your comments, Strat. I don't know what changes should i make. Do you like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 as it stands no, i certainly dont like it. to make it more photo real you need two things - the ability to see where the image can improve and what needs to be done, and secondly the ability to carry out those changes. If you dont know what changes need to be done then i'm almost at a loss to help. the improvements needed should be obvious i'm afraid. go take a look at a typical photo of a church or similar building. now compare it to yours. the differences will jump out at you. then go and try and 'fill in the gaps' so to speak. I don't know what changes should i make. If you cant see the differences then you need to go back to the drawing board and study photos and real life, as all we'll be doing here is holding your hand through a process that'll not mean much to you until you can see the light. once you can see the improvements that need to be made, we'll be in a better position to help you with your software, but you must do the basics for yourself if you're to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 the ability to see where the image can improve and what needs to be done, If you dont know what changes need to be done then i'm almost at a loss to help. Humm... I do not agree with you Strat. If everybody who is posting in Work in Progress Forum knows what changes are needed to be made, than they would post there work in Finished work section and NOT in work in Progress section. If I was able to see what improvement is needed to be made Why would I post my work in Work in Progress forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 because you perhaps dont have the ability to make those changes, and the vast majority of peeps who do post pictures in the wip forums are far more advanced than this image is. yes, i could point out things your image lacks like the absolute basics - composition, flat lighting, wrong shadows, no gi, poor texturing etc etc. these are things you should see yourself. my reply to questions like yours are always the same - study real photographs and the answers will be self evident. Then if you cant make those changes due to technical inability, we'll surely help you I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but you must grasp the basics for yourself, or atleast show that ability, else all our help is meaningless and your path will be long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Now it make sense, Thanks i will try to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTI Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Humm... I do not agree with you Strat. If everybody who is posting in Work in Progress Forum knows what changes are needed to be made, than they would post there work in Finished work section and NOT in work in Progress section. If I was able to see what improvement is needed to be made Why would I post my work in Work in Progress forum. Hi ,,,,Man the best way to learn is to learn by yourself so that you will never ever forget just go and grab a real similar pic and compare it to yours then say what you think is different even if you couldn't tell ,,just try and then people will help you that is what START is trying to say to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraworks Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 i thnink you need to dim the sun or either change its direction also try texturing you building with better textures not just flat colours that always helps;)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-isa Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Hi ankit4d, one of the best things you can do besides looking at a picture of a church is to really pay attention to your surrounding if you are outside or inside and see how lights, shadows and different textures interact with each other. Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecameleon Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 because you perhaps dont have the ability to make those changes, and the vast majority of peeps who do post pictures in the wip forums are far more advanced than this image is. yes, i could point out things your image lacks like the absolute basics - composition, flat lighting, wrong shadows, no gi, poor texturing etc etc. these are things you should see yourself. my reply to questions like yours are always the same - study real photographs and the answers will be self evident. Then if you cant make those changes due to technical inability, we'll surely help you I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but you must grasp the basics for yourself, or atleast show that ability, else all our help is meaningless and your path will be long. Well ... a bit harsh.. true, nonetheless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmccoy Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Adding camera correction to make the sides more vertical would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadi3d Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 hello there, i have to agree with above. what i did (and still do ) when i started to learn is take a render i admire and try to emulate it (ie get similar results ) basically a render is : 1- modelling, so better modeling a more details means a better render 2- texturing, so plain soloid colors just won't give u great results 3- lighting, start with GI and experiment, a LOT (it takes time) 4- rendering, this one will only give u the results of above. PS i do bellieve that one has to have a sense of Art to play in this field. when u can appreciate Art in general u will have the tendency to grasp what makes an artistic job better. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Thanks you guys for you comments and critics. I have attached a updated render. C & C are welcome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbotnen Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 This thread was fun I agree with the "harsh" guy. Go outside, look at buildings in different sun condition, maybe take some photos, study them in your war-room, and find out what is the thing that makes this photo looking real. It might be texture variations, small details (cracks and dusts) on surfaces, or if its a distance shot maybe shadow, reflection, skycolor, vegetation, etc. Camera angle also can do a lot to an image. Maybe something like this (on a general base): Decide what you want to tell / show and set your angle to suit the message. Then comp around to get your message across. But I dont agree about that should restrict people from posting in WIP threads. WIP is for learning what to look for AND how to correct it, in a technical way. Your second image was much better But Im still wondering if such a big building has a surface that monotone as yours? thats my 50.cent (not the rapper -K- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks you guys for you comments and critics. I have attached a updated render. C & C are welcome... thats 100000000 billion times better! there's no comparison. You've actually got a half decent image base to work on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippu Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 figure out where the sun is in the photograph and put a light over there and get some shadows on the base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks a lot for your compliment Strat, i'll further improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hello Maria Sir, I wanted to add a sun, but my client wants that the renders should be without any Sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Does he mean he wants an overcast day? or a night shot? I am a little confused with the scale of the building, it looks tiny compared to the trees, car and road lines, yet the building details make me want to believe it huge. Something now quite right there. jhv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODRI Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 the left point of the perspective on the horizon is far away in the real photograph, i think. luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 I have updated the render and improved the perspective problems. C & C are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nazcaLine Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 What about a STONE TEXTURE? I mean, that kind of churches are made of great chunks of stone. They look great. Eduardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ankit, Congratulations on the radical improvement. I usually won't comment on a rendering as basic as the one you first posted, but your second one is so much better! Notice 2 things about the change in composition. 1 - the view is now from eye level (appx 5'-5") not second floor window height like the first view. 2 - The view is now revealing the texture of the facade where the first view was quite flat. Adding a sun to the upper right of the view, where the light is coming from in the background plate, would reveal the texture even more. Great renderings are, in my opinion, equal parts of modeling, lighting, textures, and composition. The model is already quite good. The composition is now much improved. Work on the light and the materials and you will have something pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankit4d Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thanks a lot guys for your comments and critics....I have attached a new render. C & C are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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